Open wheel cars in DE?
10-09-2006, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by svochuck
side question how often do cars touch each other at your DE events ? I have never seen it happen in about 60 DE events.
10-09-2006, 06:58 PM
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I always thought something like a FVee would make a great DE car, simple to operate, cheap to buy, I could more then likely tow the setup with a smaller truck or even a small suv, tires are cheap, and provided you do not want the car to follow standard regs you could easily make them as fast as your pocketbook will let you.
It would not be to hard to put fenders on these things like the atom or a lotus has, add a brake light and your set.
It would not be to hard to put fenders on these things like the atom or a lotus has, add a brake light and your set.
10-09-2006, 07:21 PM
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Open wheel strikes me as a really bad idea at a DE. Totally different braking, cornering and acceleration than most tin tops.
I've done a couple where there were CSR's running and even that was too dicey for me with them running in the top group with good drivers. Too hard to see and the consequences are too great if you touch.
I've done a couple where there were CSR's running and even that was too dicey for me with them running in the top group with good drivers. Too hard to see and the consequences are too great if you touch.
10-09-2006, 09:34 PM
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Chris , if your interested and want to run with open wheel cars, we can try and get you in to a private Summit Point day when we do it next. A couple of guys garage their open wheelers down at SP and we share the track with them. Don't be surprise though when they dive inside you in a turn as we ran open passing each session with four flag stations. Cars on track is limited though.
10-09-2006, 09:51 PM
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Thanks, Bob. Over on the Riesentöter PCA web sit Mike confirmed that open wheel cars can be ok, except at the Glen where the track will not allow mixed groups. The Glen is so much my favorite that that would be a big issue, but I'd like the chance to run with the open wheel guys and I need time at SP.
I did the 3-day Skip Barber class at Laguna Seca, but the formula Dodge school cars (as opposed to the race cars they use) were pretty much pigs, if intentionally so for pedagogic purposes.
I did the 3-day Skip Barber class at Laguna Seca, but the formula Dodge school cars (as opposed to the race cars they use) were pretty much pigs, if intentionally so for pedagogic purposes.
10-09-2006, 10:04 PM
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always thought something like a FVee would make a great DE car, simple to operate, cheap to buy, I could more then likely tow the setup with a smaller truck or even a small suv, tires are cheap, and provided you do not want the car to follow standard regs you could easily make them as fast as your pocketbook will let you.
I am not sure it would be much fun to run with fendered cars. As someone said above, the formula cars are much faster in the corners, but probably slower on the straights. Someone is bound to feel held up by the car in front of them. That said, if Chin allows them, I might try it - I am looking for every opportunity I can find to drive mine.
10-09-2006, 10:04 PM
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It was fun. I chased an open wheel car around SP for a couple of sessions. We would meet at T5 and I would try my best to catch him before T9-T10. I would get a run on the straight (his top speed was around 125) and beat him into T1, then he would cut around me exiting 2, and back into the chute I would meet him again in T5. It looked like a big blue shark chasing a small fish. A real blast. I think Ian ran his Lotus 7 at the Glen with PCA. That's about as close to open wheel that they would allow.
10-10-2006, 12:04 AM
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Ariel Atom HPDE/NASA approved
http://www.arielatom.com/index.php?o...sk=view&id=147
Atom approved for HPDE/Track Days!
Brammo Motorsports announces that the production Ariel Atom 2 has been approved by the National Auto Sport Association for High Performance Driving Events and Open Track Days. Brammo has been working directly with Jerry Kunzman, Executive Director at NASA, to achieve this approval and is pleased to be a part of NASA racing.
Note: Vehicles still subject to standard production vehicle regulations regarding safety harnesses, etc...
For more information on NASA, HPDE, and their events, please visit:
http://www.nasaproracing.com/aboutnasa/index.html
Atom approved for HPDE/Track Days!
Brammo Motorsports announces that the production Ariel Atom 2 has been approved by the National Auto Sport Association for High Performance Driving Events and Open Track Days. Brammo has been working directly with Jerry Kunzman, Executive Director at NASA, to achieve this approval and is pleased to be a part of NASA racing.
Note: Vehicles still subject to standard production vehicle regulations regarding safety harnesses, etc...
For more information on NASA, HPDE, and their events, please visit:
http://www.nasaproracing.com/aboutnasa/index.html
10-10-2006, 10:01 AM
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I did the 3-day Skip Barber class at Laguna Seca, but the formula Dodge school cars (as opposed to the race cars they use) were pretty much pigs, if intentionally so for pedagogic purposes.
10-10-2006, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by JBH
Let me just say, if you haven't tried an open wheel car, you should. It is a great learning experience. It is about as low price track car to buy and operate as you can find. A Formula Ford weighs 975 pounds with 110 hp, so the differential with Porsche cars is not as much as you might think
I am not sure it would be much fun to run with fendered cars. As someone said above, the formula cars are much faster in the corners, but probably slower on the straights. Someone is bound to feel held up by the car in front of them. That said, if Chin allows them, I might try it - I am looking for every opportunity I can find to drive mine.
I am not sure it would be much fun to run with fendered cars. As someone said above, the formula cars are much faster in the corners, but probably slower on the straights. Someone is bound to feel held up by the car in front of them. That said, if Chin allows them, I might try it - I am looking for every opportunity I can find to drive mine.
Ho much am I loking at for a decent FF, I have seen a few for sale over the years with prices all over the board. Something like this below would be very cheap at least in my eyes for a track only open wheel car.
http://www.race-cars.com/carsales/va...33813751ss.htm
