John Brown

Agreed. PCA 'stock' is concerned mostly with the carpets. Silly.

Gary R.

I'm confused, are you talking about "Stock - Classes A-K"?

"Section 2. Suspension
B. Shock absorbers are free providing they are of the same type, using the same pick-up points, as the factory."

Did the factory supply external resevoir shock absorbers?

38D

I don't think you need the full Moton or JRZ setup to be competitive. You do need a reasonably stiff setup (springs/Tbars & sways) and decently valved non-adjustable shocks. But you need this anyway just so you don't kill tires afer every single day.

TheOtherEric

Sounds like that salesman was blowing smoke, just trying to sell some high-margin product. I can't imagine PCA would make this rule at this point in time.

That said, I hope they do. There will be plenty of cheap used Motons for people like me!

gt3skea

like i said - don't know a whole lot, but the ones i do...

gt3skea

give us your description of "type" and we can go from there. obviously same pick up points. bc again, after just having gone through this, coil over is the type. after that, its free

Geoffrey

OR nonadjustable internally oiled shock is the "type" and therefore Motons, JRZ, Penske, etc. are not legal

Gary R.

That's the way I would read it - "same type .... as the factory".

M758

Personally I think
Stock should be = non-remote reservior with 1 adjustment max
Prepared = allow any shock.

wheels width
Stock = max 7" or stock (standard or factory optional) width & rear width front which ever is greater (note my 7" is for cars with 5.5 or 4.5" wheels as stock, but beyond that stay stock in stoc
Prepared 1 = 1" wider than stock
Prepared 2 = 2" wider than stock

Wheel diameter
stock = max = 15" or 1" greater than stock (which ever is larger)
Prepared 1 = any wheel diamter

These 3 rule will do alot to begin to cap costs. sure you can still spend big bucks, but it does create some limits in the most expensive areas of racing.

I know this would **** off lots of folks, but the open shock allowance is one reason I have never entered in to stock class racing in PCA. (That and the tire/wheel free for all, but that is another story)

Mark in Baltimore

Recent independent studies have shown that Motons hold nearly 89% of their original value!

Carrera51

"Section 2. Suspension
B. Shock absorbers are free providing they are of the same type, using the same pick-up points, as the factory."

If this is the case, then how are there cars running in their true stock classes with remote resevior shocks? Are the as prevalent as it sounds here? Personally I have off the shelf Bilstein sports (my car came with the green Bilstein struts).

Manny Alban

wow, where do these rumors come from? I thought we already went through the "they're going to move you up a class if you're running remote shocks" scare a year or so ago. Don't they print or post the proposed changes on the web/newsletter for racers' comments? I don't think that timeframe has happended yet.

-still running 10 year old Bilstein non-adjustable shocks

Rick

Mark,

Actually, I think it's closer to 99%.

Larry Herman

Tighten up stock as much as you want, just don't screw with prepared!



Now is that self-serving or what?

Ed Newman

Let me ask a serious question.... if anyone adjustable running coilovers moved up 1 class would it be that bad? Most faster people run them so they would moev up together. And if changing from a strut and spring to an adjustable coilover system is not a change of type, what is?