Ski

I've got the Victoracers on the car now, I like them but I was wondering from those of you who run the Toyo Proxes, how do you like them, how do they wear, and have you run the victoracers before hand?
JAB Racing car in sig, no street time, only DE. TIA

JackOlsen

Similar performance, but the Toyos will last longer.

BrokeAss

..that's what I've heard and why I'm planning to get a set of proxes the next time around.

NetManiac

I prefer the RA-1 to Victoracers but I prefer the V710 to the RA-1.

I only ran the Victoracer once, so my comparison data is not the extensive. The RA-1 has better consistency over the run session, and like Jack and Terry said you will get more heat cycles.

ceboyd

I keep hearing such good things about the RA-1... I'll have to try a set next year once the DSSRs are no longer available for so cheap!

chrisp

How about in the rain? I need rain tires that will see very limited use as dry back ups. I have MPSC's for the dry but don't want to use MPSC's on cooler days (under 55 degrees or so) or in the wet.

chrisp

Sorry I forgot to add that I am looking for comparo between Ecsta V700 (not victo) and RA-1

Bull

When i last looked, the RA-1s were available in limited 18" sizes and were more expensive than MPSCs.

Tom W

I use a set of RA-1s as rain tires (and spares if I have a problem) and MPSCs as the general use tire for my track car.

I think the ECSTA v700 are fine for autox but heat up too much for track use, especially on hot days. There were a lot of complaints about them chunking at the track and falling apart on the 993 board when they first came out a few years ago. I used up one set of them for autox but never took them to the track.

ceboyd

for the time being you can still get a hell-of-a-deal on a set of the DSSRs and they work much nicer in colder temps and are considered a rain tire at full tread from tirerack

ceboyd

People with lighter cars love them (under 2200 pounds) but I've only heard bad things after about 10 minutes of a session on 993s (aka, heavier cars)

ceboyd

about the same price as MPSCs in my research.. and yes, you have to get an odd rear size of 275 but I hear they do better in cold weather and last longer than MPSCs (with regard to still providing decent lap times after more heat cycles)

Ski

We've been using Yoko A032R as rain tires and Kuhmo Victoracer V700. I've just been reading some very good things about the Toyos lasting a bit longer, even shaved 4/32. Sorry, would someone fill in the MPSC and DSSR?

ceboyd

MSPC = Michelin Pilot Sport Cup

DSSR = Dunlop Super Sport Race


(both are R compound tires that are DOT approved for street use)

softright

In my opinion, the Kuhmos have stiffer sidewalls, are quieter and "feel" like they stick better as a result. The RA1s behave more like street tires but they seem to stick just about as well. They take some getting used to if you have been driving on Kuhmos. I use RA1s for rains.