View Poll Results: Which H&N device do you use and why? What car do you drive?
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Hans, R3, Issac, other?
06-06-2005, 04:53 PM
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I bought the R3 because I am an instructor and can easily use it in student's cars, especially with 3 point belts. If it were only for my car, I might have bought an Isaac instead.
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Larry Herman
2016 Ford Transit Connect Titanium LWB
2018 Tesla Model 3 - Electricity can be fun!
Retired Club Racer & National PCA Instructor
Past Flames:
1994 RS America Club Racer
2004 GT3 Track Car
1984 911 Carrera Club Racer
1974 914/4 2.0 Track Car
CLICK HERE to see some of my ancient racing videos.
06-06-2005, 06:38 PM
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Does a neck brace do anything at all for forward movement of the head?
I'd like some protection, but I'm in the yellow group (1st step above green in metro NY PCA) and 2 full race seats + 6 point harnesses + H&N restraint is quite pricey.
I'd like some protection, but I'm in the yellow group (1st step above green in metro NY PCA) and 2 full race seats + 6 point harnesses + H&N restraint is quite pricey.
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06-06-2005, 07:01 PM
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A neck brace does nothing in a collision because it's too soft to make a difference relative to the forces involved, IMO. If you made it hard enough, it would increase the probability of BSF by providing a fulcrum under your chin. However, I've never seen any actual test results, just looked at the stress vectors. FWIW, I parked my neck brace and bought a HANS about two years ago.
06-06-2005, 08:50 PM
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A neck brace is a comfort item. If you can pinch it between two fingers, you've measured most of what it's going to do for your head in a crash.
I think the entry-level Isaac Link model (at less than $300) is a good entry-level choice.
I think the entry-level Isaac Link model (at less than $300) is a good entry-level choice.
06-07-2005, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by JackOlsen
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I think the entry-level Isaac Link model (at less than $300) is a good entry-level choice.
I think the entry-level Isaac Link model (at less than $300) is a good entry-level choice.
Having said that you need racing shells ($300) and 5-6 point harness ($100) and a roll bar ($499) or harness struss ($250-400) to have even the ISAAC link model to work.
So you are talking about $1000 worth of safety gear.
06-07-2005, 11:18 AM
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Drifting
I went with the HANS.
After seeing Dale Jr's Corvette wreck last year, I decided I didn't want anything extra to loosen/unclip/pull if I'm dazed and have to exit in a hurry.
After seeing Dale Jr's Corvette wreck last year, I decided I didn't want anything extra to loosen/unclip/pull if I'm dazed and have to exit in a hurry.
06-07-2005, 01:16 PM
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Isaac by design and cost.
Neck foam supports are, in a collision, only extra weight attached to your head that your neck must restrain. A quick survey of any crash videos shows clearly that they don't act as pivots on impact, but the dead weight is not a help. Just like wearing a heavy helmet vs. light helmet. For the record, I use a Bell M3 helmet (one of the lighter ones), and my car is noted below.
Neck foam supports are, in a collision, only extra weight attached to your head that your neck must restrain. A quick survey of any crash videos shows clearly that they don't act as pivots on impact, but the dead weight is not a help. Just like wearing a heavy helmet vs. light helmet. For the record, I use a Bell M3 helmet (one of the lighter ones), and my car is noted below.
06-07-2005, 03:58 PM
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I just ordered the ISAAC intermediate with the two way action releases. I don't think I could have made a "wrong" choice, but I just felt like the ISAAC fit my current needs the best. I will be using it for a single car -- the track dedicated 944 NA -- and will not need to move it since I am not an instructor (and likely will not be for a long, long time the way I drove at Sunday's DE at Summit Point 
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06-08-2005, 02:01 AM
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R3 for the same reason as Larry - so I can instruct with it as well. Also, have first hand experience that it works well - side/oblique impact at Mosport, bruised ribs from the seat, bruised ankle from the clutch and a bruised ego from the stupidity, but the R3 prevented my head from going too far sideways/forward and I had no neck problems.
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