993 vs. 996 for DE
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"For me, you can always set 993 more badass than 996 (remmeber, not talking about being faster)."
The only way to make a 993 more badass than a 996 is to make it into a 3.8L RS. (Remember Finn, it's all about being faster
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"Soundvise, where as you can set-up 996 as Tina Turner singing "rolling on the river", you can set-up 993 as Janis Joplin singing "Piece of my heart". "
The exhaust system on my 996 is an eight inch long piece of 3 inch pipe running directly from the header out the back bumper cover. I'm pretty sure Janis would have approved.
At the end of the day and as I've said many times before, the 996 has a better track chassis and the 993 has a better (although weaker) track engine. If you want the best of both worlds, go buy a GT3. If you can't afford a GT3 and want to go fast, buy a 996. If you want the comfort of a dry sump engine and are willing to finish a close second, buy a 993. It's hard to imagine going wrong here.
FWIW, I've club raced a 996 for two years with zero engine problems. Year one was in a 3.4L, year two a 3.6L. There are many more 996s showing up in C (4 at VIR) so there will be much more data soon.
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The only way to make a 993 more badass than a 996 is to make it into a 3.8L RS. (Remember Finn, it's all about being faster
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"Soundvise, where as you can set-up 996 as Tina Turner singing "rolling on the river", you can set-up 993 as Janis Joplin singing "Piece of my heart". "
The exhaust system on my 996 is an eight inch long piece of 3 inch pipe running directly from the header out the back bumper cover. I'm pretty sure Janis would have approved.
At the end of the day and as I've said many times before, the 996 has a better track chassis and the 993 has a better (although weaker) track engine. If you want the best of both worlds, go buy a GT3. If you can't afford a GT3 and want to go fast, buy a 996. If you want the comfort of a dry sump engine and are willing to finish a close second, buy a 993. It's hard to imagine going wrong here.
FWIW, I've club raced a 996 for two years with zero engine problems. Year one was in a 3.4L, year two a 3.6L. There are many more 996s showing up in C (4 at VIR) so there will be much more data soon.
Jim
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The exhaust system on my 996 is an eight inch long piece of 3 inch pipe running directly from the header out the back bumper cover.
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Originally Posted by John H
Thanks, now I can't get that song out of my mind. Lindsay Lohan got some big a$$ ti....
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Originally Posted by Flying Finn
Or 996 is Jennifer Anniston and 993 is Angelina Jolie...
Damn if I had more money, I'd get Jim's Jenna Jameson right away!
Damn if I had more money, I'd get Jim's Jenna Jameson right away!
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"The only way to make a 993 more badass than a 996 is to make it into a 3.8L RS. (Remember Finn, it's all about being faster)"
My plan is actually to put a TT engine in my car (keeping it rwd) when it's time to re-build the engine.
In a way it is being faster but being badass doesn't necessary mean being faster, 917 in GULF colors won't beat 962 on a track but imo is waaaay more badass.
"The exhaust system on my 996 is an eight inch long piece of 3 inch pipe running directly from the header out the back bumper cover. I'm pretty sure Janis would have approved."
No question but still imo you can get meaner noise from 993, although my favourite is probably 2.2 or 2.7 with open pipes, I guess it's those smaller size cylinders & pistons that make it more special.
"At the end of the day and as I've said many times before, the 996 has a better track chassis and the 993 has a better (although weaker) track engine. If you want the best of both worlds, go buy a GT3. If you can't afford a GT3 and want to go fast, buy a 996. If you want the comfort of a dry sump engine and are willing to finish a close second, buy a 993. It's hard to imagine going wrong here."
I agree, no way you can go wrong with those choises!
My plan is actually to put a TT engine in my car (keeping it rwd) when it's time to re-build the engine.
In a way it is being faster but being badass doesn't necessary mean being faster, 917 in GULF colors won't beat 962 on a track but imo is waaaay more badass.
"The exhaust system on my 996 is an eight inch long piece of 3 inch pipe running directly from the header out the back bumper cover. I'm pretty sure Janis would have approved."
No question but still imo you can get meaner noise from 993, although my favourite is probably 2.2 or 2.7 with open pipes, I guess it's those smaller size cylinders & pistons that make it more special.
"At the end of the day and as I've said many times before, the 996 has a better track chassis and the 993 has a better (although weaker) track engine. If you want the best of both worlds, go buy a GT3. If you can't afford a GT3 and want to go fast, buy a 996. If you want the comfort of a dry sump engine and are willing to finish a close second, buy a 993. It's hard to imagine going wrong here."
I agree, no way you can go wrong with those choises!
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So what's that make a highly modified 600hp, torsion bar'd, no ABS 930?
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As much as we'd hate to admit it, Porsche is moving away from it's heritage. These cars aren't the "track" cars they once were out of the shop. A good driver will destroy a 996/997 out on the track.
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Wet Sump - Isn't for everybody.
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"As much as we'd hate to admit it, Porsche is moving away from it's heritage. These cars aren't the "track" cars they once were out of the shop. A good driver will destroy a 996/997 out on the track.
Wet Sump - Isn't for everybody"
Check out the Grand Am Cup series. There's a whole bunch of nearly stock 996s being driven by some pretty good drivers and they seem to be doing just fine.
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Check out the Grand Am Cup series. There's a whole bunch of nearly stock 996s being driven by some pretty good drivers and they seem to be doing just fine.
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If you get a 996, I don't see the point of getting one earlier than a 2002. With a chip in your 993 and some other mods, you can get damn near close to the 996 and LOOK a whole lot better
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Originally Posted by JimB
Check out the Grand Am Cup series. There's a whole bunch of nearly stock 996s being driven by some pretty good drivers and they seem to be doing just fine.