Jeff Curtis

I run a 1991 C2 911 in D-prepared class for PCA Club Racing. From what I understand, and have had others agree (mostly other C2 owners) I still have to weigh what I would have to weigh if I was running in E...which is 3031lbs.

Am I reading the rules correctly or can I shave off some weight??

An RSA runs in D class and can weigh something like 27xxlbs, someone suggested that if I run D-prepared, I am allowed to weigh that of an RSA...I don't think so, but just in case I'm missing something - PLEASE clarify this for me!

Eric in Chicago

Jeff,
I know first hand that unless you update/backdate the car to exact specs of the car your trying to match weight to, you will be DQ'ed. When I ran my 993 perpared in C, I could not run at 993 RS weight without actually being a 993 RS (I was racing a cab so I had no shot of ever being a RS). First race, got 3rd, 34lbs under my D class weight 3064 and I got DQ'ed. Point is by going perpared, weight reduction is not free unless your going to duplicate all the changes to make your car a RSA. PCA is really cracking down on the update/backdate issue. See Donna Amico article in the new issue of club race news.

Alan C.

I'll second Eric, Got busted for being 65 LB under in a 95 993 prepared in C (Enormous horsepower making wing) Second out the window.

I have now removed the wing section and gone back to D until my Motons move me back to C.

Another note for those not familiar with prepared is the need for a full cage. A good idea for all. I'm putting in a full welded-in CrMo cage after Putnam. Then I'll be overweight. Do I get bonus points for that

If anyone wants a Matter bolt-in light weight cage I have one for sale.

JC in NY

Jeff,
You have a few choices.

1. Run your car as an RS America in "D", at a weight of 2760 lbs.
2. Run your car in "D" as a prepared Carrera 2, at the higher weight.

carreracup21

Just curious how tough it would be to convert a C2 to a RSA. I guess the interior would need to be re-done. It seems like the current PCA opinion is to leave stock class cars as their VIN #'s meant them to be, and that seems reasonable to me as well.

Manny Alban

Jeff, you have to run 3031lbs in D. I run my C2 in C because I converted it to a RSA. Not to hard to do, actually. Had to remove the power steering and replace it with a RSA manual rack, put in RSA carpeting and door panels. Since sunroof, radio, lsd and ac were optional, I choose to keep the LSD and sunroof, but removed the ac.

Jeff Curtis

Thanks for your answers, but Manny, you say if I convert to an RSA I have to run C then??

I'll stick with my current configuration for now...don't want to run against you Manny!

dgz924s

Same question different class. I class going to H prepared. Would weight need to be added to it or can the car run as is? Still confused after reading here. TIA

MJR911

Definitely need to run at 3031 as D prepared. You can run in D at RSA weight, but remove the huge brakes, tail, etc and be full RSA. I know of another racer or two that will learn this the hard way at upcoming races. Good luck Jeff!

jim3

Dal, you don't have to add weight. You just have to meet the published weight after the race which off the top of my head is 2722 lbs. You do need to run full cage.

dgz924s

Jim
My weight is 2747 no driver. H class is lighter? I class is 2734 IIRC. Prepared car has to use full cage? Why when I can use roll bar in I? TIA!!

jim3

Just looked it up online, you're right it's 2734 lbs. In 1999 they wanted to minimize the no of cars running roll bars, so they changed the rule. Prior to that you could run roll bars in prepared. In proposed rule changes this year they are proposing cages in stock cars which will put me out of racing after 11 years if it becomes a rule.

dgz924s

Sad to say it but me too. I realize the importance of safety but a full cage would really set me back to the point it would be worthless as I could not afford to utilize it. I know it is stupid like racing w/o a helmet.

And if my weight is 2734 and 944 Rothman is a bit lower 26xx?, the 944S is 2822 I fit right in as I see it. Meaning I could drop to the Rothman limit?

JCP911S

Stock weight remains same in Prepared.... no change. Seems pretty clear to me in the rules... am I missing something.

Looks to me that scruts are really rethinking the Postdate/Backdate rule.... even if the new rule proposal does not fly, they are clearly signalling that they will strictly enforce the existing rules. I suspect in the majority of cases it is almost impossible to postdate/backdate a car 100%... you can spend alot of money and end up with your car bumped to GT becasue the axle shafts are a millimeter too fat, or some dumbass thing.

Personally, I wouldn't take the risk

M758

I would actually love it if PCA allowed a 10% weight reduction as "prepared" class modification and let us strip interiors and not go all the way to GT for little cheap speed. Sure stripped interior suck on street cars, but how many PCA race cars are still street driven. My guess few in stock and fewer "prepared" Cars.