CC Dedicated Track Car ?
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EJ, I still won't race. I thought it would be excellent training and practice (and a world of fun as speed is fun and this car would certainly be fast). What other cars should I look at besides the radial and Diasio?
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Color - if you're not going to race, then you should just look for the fastest, most powerful race car made and drive it at 4/10s. You will still think you are flying.
I am thinking along the lines of:
2 year old F1 car
2 year old ChampCar
1 year old LMP900
Hell, maybe Craig Breedlove would let you drive his 2 year old race car.
I am thinking along the lines of:
2 year old F1 car
2 year old ChampCar
1 year old LMP900
Hell, maybe Craig Breedlove would let you drive his 2 year old race car.
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EJ, c'mon, I'm not that immune to purchase and maintenance costs. I just didn't want people to suggest a 944 (nothing wrong with that, but faster is more fun for me). The 962R seems to be the cheapest fast car available that should still be low(ish) cost to maintain.
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Originally Posted by ColorChange
The 962R seems to be the cheapest fast car available that should still be low(ish) cost to maintain.
I've got friends who have fleets of 4 or 5 year old NASCAR cars. They are cake to maintain and have 700hp. Not that expensive of an entry cost either.
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Originally Posted by E. J. - 993 Alumni
Color - if you're not going to race, then you should just look for the fastest, most powerful race car made and drive it at 4/10s. You will still think you are flying.
I am thinking along the lines of:
2 year old F1 car
2 year old ChampCar
1 year old LMP900
Hell, maybe Craig Breedlove would let you drive his 2 year old race car.
I am thinking along the lines of:
2 year old F1 car
2 year old ChampCar
1 year old LMP900
Hell, maybe Craig Breedlove would let you drive his 2 year old race car.
On a serious note CC, keep in mind a tow car and trailer.....then a place to keep them all..
I would love to have a dedicated track car, just dont have the room for a trailer
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EJ, sadly, I'll bet there are a few of those out there
Heck, some Atlantic 'pro' seats are out there for $15K/race.. Just bring FIA license and checkbook, all the data one could want, included
Heck, some Atlantic 'pro' seats are out there for $15K/race.. Just bring FIA license and checkbook, all the data one could want, included
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So how fast do you want to go? Maybe this will help.
At last year's Road America Club Race, Kevin Buckler qualified at 2:15:5 in a 2003 996 GT3RS; fellow Rennlister Chris C put down a 2:29:7 (nice!). For perspective, here are the fastest laps from 2003's June Sprints:
2:41:1 Spec Racer Ford
2:23:7 Formula Ford
2:18:9 Formula Mazda
2:17:4 Formula Continental
2:11:9 GT1 Corvette
2:07:6 Formula Atlantic
At this year's CART race, Bruno Junqueira posted a fastest lap of 1:45:5, so you might want to work your way up to a Champ Car.
At last year's Road America Club Race, Kevin Buckler qualified at 2:15:5 in a 2003 996 GT3RS; fellow Rennlister Chris C put down a 2:29:7 (nice!). For perspective, here are the fastest laps from 2003's June Sprints:
2:41:1 Spec Racer Ford
2:23:7 Formula Ford
2:18:9 Formula Mazda
2:17:4 Formula Continental
2:11:9 GT1 Corvette
2:07:6 Formula Atlantic
At this year's CART race, Bruno Junqueira posted a fastest lap of 1:45:5, so you might want to work your way up to a Champ Car.
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Originally Posted by joey bagadonuts
At this year's CART race, Bruno Junqueira posted a fastest lap of 1:45:5, so you might want to work your way up to one of those Champ Cars.
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ChrisW: I would plan to keep it at the track but if I had to get a beater SUV to tow I could and keep it at the factory.
Seriously guys, the 962R turbo and the Radical SR3 turbo look like awesome cars. What does the SR3-T go for? What else should I consider (low cost, great performance, easy maintenance)?
Seriously guys, the 962R turbo and the Radical SR3 turbo look like awesome cars. What does the SR3-T go for? What else should I consider (low cost, great performance, easy maintenance)?
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Given your experience level, I'm just not sure going to a open, purpose built racer is the way to go, especially from a safety point of view.
If you look at that Diaso thing, there's about 4 tubes that protect your legs from an oncomming wall...not exactly a great car to learn in. Do yourself a favor and look for an already built PCA racer. A PCA GT car (maybe a GT3R or GT2R car) would be wicked fast, and you'd be able to run it with more clubs.
If you look at that Diaso thing, there's about 4 tubes that protect your legs from an oncomming wall...not exactly a great car to learn in. Do yourself a favor and look for an already built PCA racer. A PCA GT car (maybe a GT3R or GT2R car) would be wicked fast, and you'd be able to run it with more clubs.
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Oh, I WAS being serious (well, not about the Champ car). I think the FM cars go for $20-$25K and are plenty quick--sub 2:20 at Road America! If I were shopping for a track-only car which I could race, I'd look into those ... and slower cars.
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Every suggestion in this thread (including my own) have the high probability of getting CC killed.
Seriously CC, you need a reality check. Just because you have done a few DEs in your Lambo and TT and have the data sheets to prove it doesn't mean you should all of a sudden be droving a very fast purpose built race car. You need to learn to drive first.
I love the type of person you are. You look at stats of race cars, decide the SR3 Radical isn't fast enough and so you ask about horsepower of the SR3T. Some people have more money then sense.
Good luck dude, I'm outta here.
Seriously CC, you need a reality check. Just because you have done a few DEs in your Lambo and TT and have the data sheets to prove it doesn't mean you should all of a sudden be droving a very fast purpose built race car. You need to learn to drive first.
I love the type of person you are. You look at stats of race cars, decide the SR3 Radical isn't fast enough and so you ask about horsepower of the SR3T. Some people have more money then sense.
Good luck dude, I'm outta here.
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OK, from a safety standpoint, the track (at Autobahn) looks extremely same. It is designed by the same guy who designed Gingerman and other extremely safe tracks. If the survivability of the Diasio is not good, I won't do it. Third(ly)?, because a car has great capability doesn't mean you have to use it all on all corners, especially while you are learning.
Is the problem with the turbo versions, or the concept itself? What if I was looking at the 150 hp versions. Would these opinions of too fast for me and unsafe still stand?
Is the problem with the turbo versions, or the concept itself? What if I was looking at the 150 hp versions. Would these opinions of too fast for me and unsafe still stand?
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I can't comment about other cars, but I can mention that if you're hung on the D962, there are a number of guys racing them in NASA in this area (OH/IN Region). I'm fairly certain they're the non-turbo cars, so I'd recommend that over the turbo for the options (resale value if nothing else, though it might open the door to racing it). Just additional things to keep in mind.