LuigiVampa

Did I miss a comment period?

This is a big rule change and I don't remember seeing any discussion about it.

I don't agree that cars which are DNF or DQ don't give points to a winner. That was the old rule and only a few years ago that started counting DNF and DQ cars for points, which I agree with. If they want to keep this 5 point bonus point rule they should still count all cars which started.

I guess this rule change is supposed to give the smaller races a chance.

Jas0nn

I'm not a fan either ...

The winner of a race with six cars shouldn't earn as many points as the winner of a race with 16, or even 26, cars!

Never-mind the fact that in bigger fields, you can have 8th place and 15th place both earning the same points.

tgsmith4845

I don’t recall seeing this in the proposed rules changes either. Odd.

From reading it a few times, it looks like the only change is 5 bonus points instead of 10? DNFs and DQs still count as bonus points.

skeeler

Man, that would have helped me a lot in 2023!

It will be interesting how this plays out.........

LuigiVampa

I read it again regarding DNF and DQ and think you are right. It's poor wording.

I did a calculation and it appears I would have been first in the GTC6 championship last year instead of second, so this rule matters alot. All the more curious why PCA appears to have done this without much comment, unless I missed something.

Steve113

why did they do away with real GTC-3 tire contingency for a crappy stipend without input - Because they are PCA

Club Blau

Maybe that's due to PCA negotiating with companies and trying to get the maximum $ benefit for racers and the program. I didn't know they needed input to do what is best for PCA and PCA racers. Really??!? Anything else to complain about??

Jas0nn

cause there are only 2 of you

did I mention that CUP has a great Hoosier contingency? And the tires are so cheap they're practically free compared to big-boy slicks ...

38D

This appears to be a rule designed change to help the smaller races. Right now, you can’t win a championship in any of the competitive classes without doing well at Sebring, Watkins Glen and Road America. I tend to agree that beating a big field should count more, but that also disadvantages the smaller races.

Jas0nn

But should you be able to win a NATIONAL championship if you never really race the cars in your class?

txhokie4life

Note -- I'm only in the race to give others points -- so my perspective on the points system really doesn't matter...

However I had heard that there was a contingent of racers who would only travel to the big races because that's where the points were to be had. This has the side effect of cannibalizing the smaller races - to the point where there are no small races.

This then forces folks like me that are racing for the fun of it -- to have to consider selling off my car -- because there aren't any races (i.e. smaller ones) "locally". Last year I made two races -- and one of those was still a 15 hr tow.

No MSR-Cresson, no NoLA, no Hallet, no Topeka... yes there are two ECR races, but if I have a conflict -- I'm down to 1 race a year.

Fortunately for me CoTA is back (and adding Ozarks) -- so that at least for this year -- pushes my decision to pull out of Club Racing further into the future.

LuigiVampa

I think you are forgetting that the "C" in PCA stands for "club" and thus, we do have a right to give some input.

Club Blau

To the points changes ect. absolutely, it affects all. As to changes in contingency for classes that I was referring to, No. Those decisions are made with companies trying to make the best of club racing. More to your point PCA is a club "fueled by volunteers" Until you volunteer you are more of a Porsche Compalainer of America member...

Steve113

Club Bau - well since I am a member and now I can't win 1 or 2 tires saving me almost $1,000 in exchange for the great wisdom of now winning a $100 or $200 voucher I guess it's not the GTC3 racers you were looking out for was it ?

Customer service seems to be your calling

By the way I am Steve Katz who am I speaking with ?

Club Blau

I'm sorry, were you a customer or a club member, Im so confused!?