You are 18 posts into Rennlist and already bring this level of smack talking without even knowing who you are talking to?

Is advocating for your class, as Steve is doing, complaining? If that is true, perhaps we should change the name of each PCA sanctioned class advocate to class complainer? It kind of sounds to me like you don't know what you are talking about.

Plus, no one gets to **** talk about Steve except me. He may be a green flag jumping jerk, but he's my green flag jumping jerk!

 

No fakking way I'm giving up the CUP Kaiser title! I have too much stationary I've yet to use.

 

Jason = PCA 911CUP Class Complainer

 

I contacted the PCA CR Rules Committee Chair about this change. He confirmed it did not go through the normal rules change process.

 

I don't disagree with the reason why they did this, which is to support the smaller races, but I feel like it is enough of a seismic shift that there should have been a comment period.

I probably even agree that this is for the best, but I would dislike if PCA thought it should make changes on what is best without consulting the drivers.

 

I'm not sure this is for the best. Why don't we just give everyone a trophy and 2,000 points each.

 

As previously noted, a lot of the smaller races are going away. The LRP club race, which is my region's home race, is modestly attended now. When I first started racing ten years ago both Paddock A and B were packed to the gills. I remember going to NJMP and there were people parked on the grass all the way to T1 and now not so much.

Do we really only want to race at the big tracks? The flip side is that someone who races these smaller races, who you never meet, could win a championship, and what kind of championship is it if you never race against someone?

There is no perfect answer when the car count is dropping like it has been.

 

There are certainly reasons racers are leaving PCA, but that’s a whole ‘nother thread. Ask me how I know. 🙂

 

I think there are more choices than there were years ago and many choices, such as AER and Champ, are cheaper. A race with AER or Champ costs me about the same as a set of tires for my 991 and I have just as much fun and more seat time.

 

Where is this new points rule posted? Everything I've seen on the PCA site for 2024 says maximum of 10 bonus points. Was it recently rolled back?

 

It was an email from PCA CR about a week ago. The text I quoted was lifted from the email.

 

It feels like someone realized the rules change just made sense and probably got a lot of positive feedback and just made a call. It was a good call. Losing Mid-O this year was a gut punch. Without numbers the local regions don’t have clout with the tracks. It blows my mind that Mosport and Mid-O haven’t been able to fill a second run group the last couple years.

 

In my opinion, this rule could have been much better. What I would have done to balance the big/small race issue is have 5 races (races not events) with unlimited bonus points, the next 4 cap at 5 bonus points, and the remaining 4 have no bonus points. This would still force competitors to do well at couple of big events, but not punish the smaller events.

and I would back test this to see if it changed any results over the past few years, and publish those findings.

 

I don't know what the right answer would be but I do think this is a big enough change that there should have been input from racers.

I'm not a fan of decisions being made "for the best." We have a system for the implementation of new rules and don't think this fit into the category of a small inconsequential rule change.

 

We weren't losing racers because of the points system - but we may now! (Okay, maybe that's a touch dramatic).

I don't see this adding new racers, either. Perhaps someone in a less-endowed part of the country may do some more racing, and that's a good thing. But it certainly doesn't offset the potential harm.

If I win Watkins Glen in 911CUP and beat out 15 other races from across multiple states, do you really think the guy who wins Brainerd and only beat a few local racers should get the same points? If so, we're after different things in this sport.

Honestly, I would go the opposite direction: uncap bonus points and remove event points. If we want to add racers, there is a greater return to be had by making our biggest classes even bigger than trying to resuscitate small classes. Car count begets car count.