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I am in the market for a hans or similar device to use with my 89 944 turbo s (race car).
I have not owned a hans before.
Car has 5 point harnesses
any suggestions where to start? should I consider used?
my current helmet is open faced does Hans work with open face?
I plan to continue instructing so this is a consideration as well.
thanks in advance
was Hans Gruber meme used because I said used? steer me in the right direction then. is Hans still the goto?
edit haha just got it....Hans and Hans haha! can't believe I missed that one. loved die hard
Danny
I wouldn’t recommend an open face helmet on a race track , especially if you’re going to instruct at Mosport …
No problem installing a used Hans , as most likely they haven’t been involved in an incident and you can get them recertified.
You certainly don’t want to bounce of the wall a few times coming out of 10 in an overzealous student’s car !
I’ve been using Pyrotect helmets for over 10 years , they are reasonably priced and fit well.Got mine from Irace in Ontario.
I have never used an open face helmet on the track. I have left my visor on my closed face helmet open and been hit by a marble , ouch .... I definitely recommend a closed face helmet
I am in the market for a hans or similar device to use with my 89 944 turbo s (race car).
I have not owned a hans before. How did you drive your race car without one? Or did you just obtain it? Or did you borrow a HANS?
Car has 5 point harnesses
any suggestions where to start? I would recommend a Simpson Hybrid S. should I consider used? IMO, no. I wouldn't unless it was still pretty new and you trusted the seller. Maybe that's just me. A new Simpson Hybrid S is not cheap though.
my current helmet is open faced does Hans work with open face? No issue between the two but I would not drive on the track with an open face helmet. Others seem to agree.
I plan to continue instructing so this is a consideration as well. This is why the Simpson is a better choice, IMO, than a conventional HANS. The Simpson is the only HANS that affords you protection in the right seat of a 3-point belt car, which is probably the more likely scenario for most instruction.
thanks in advance
See my thoughts in bold. Hope that helps but I'm not saying anything different than others have.
This is a great deal on the exact device many pros are wearing. Just send it in for recertification.
Unlike others here, I disagree with wearing a hybrid device in 3 point belts, as I haven't seen any crash test data to support the safety of the hybrid device in that situation. 3 point belts are a complete safety system, adding to that could be compromising the efficacy. Wear a hans with harnesses, and no device in 3 point belts imo.
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Originally Posted by afilsinger
This is a great deal on the exact device many pros are wearing. Just send it in for recertification.
Unlike others here, I disagree with wearing a hybrid device in 3 point belts, as I haven't seen any crash test data to support the safety of the hybrid device in that situation. 3 point belts are a complete safety system, adding to that could be compromising the efficacy. Wear a hans with harnesses, and no device in 3 point belts imo.
Interesting. Simpson did testing with their Hybrid system with 3-point belts and supposedly automotive OEMs use the Hybrid when track testing their cars, engineers, test drivers, etc.. I have not seen results of any specific testing though.
Interesting. Simpson did testing with their Hybrid system with 3-point belts and supposedly automotive OEMs use the Hybrid when track testing their cars, engineers, test drivers, etc.. I have not seen results of any specific testing though.
I'd love to see that data, until then I'll stick with my Hans pro ultra lite, and no device in the rare occasions I am in 3 point belts. The other reality is any students I feel the need to right seat are very green, and very far off pace. I generally don't right seat anyone that is intermediate or above - data and video are safer and more effective here.
I picked up this car in fall (formerly owned by Jerome).It has a really nice Ohlins suspension as well as new computers etc.
I am looking to add a wing btw as well.
I go back and forth between an older style hybrid and a HANS. Hybrid style is more comfortable, but HANS is less cumbersome getting in and out of tight cars and getting on and off. Also Hybrid can leave imprint in leather after extended use. Not been a problem with short time in student cars, but noticeable wear on my race seat in my car.
See the thread below before you make a decision. Watch the video. Driver - no Hybrid. Passenger - Hybrid. Who do you want to be?
I shake my head when some mention a concern about imprints or marking of the seat from a Hybrid.
I am in disbelief when some would opt for nothing but the 3-point belt and helmet (which by the way increases your chance of neck injury due to added mass at your head). When I wised up a couple years ago and got my Hybrid S, I immediately felt tremendous relief for the support it gave, without impairing my movement or vision on the track. I now have a rollbar, seats, harnesses. The Hybrid is totally ok to use in this situation; as good as a conventional HANS as far as I know.
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