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70% of the videos on the internet are ****, 20% are cats, and the remaining 32% are comprised of well driven, low horsepower cars, in back of poorly driven higher horsepower cars.
70% of the videos on the internet are ****, 20% are cats, and the remaining 32% are comprised of well driven, low horsepower cars, in back of poorly driven higher horsepower cars.
i stopped watching at the 1 minute mark when the 911 should have pointed the miata by him at least 3 times already. ego can be a terrible thing...
I'll spoil the rest of it for you, pointby at 7:29 seconds lol.
In my HPDE days I had 2 solutions for stuff like this that worked 99% of the time. After they pull away on the straightaway yet again thinking they can gas it away from you, I would charge up on them at 100% right up until I had to hit the brakes to avoid them. The rapidly decreasing closing distance usually got them to finally point by (that was my last resort to get a point by). What I found was safer then that was also just upping the pressure by driving closer and closer to them. Usually before I got 2 feet off their bumper with half my car sticking out in their left mirror they would give the point by, and the thing is, then they'd get out of my way for the rest of the day so problem solved. These were always in groups that should have known better. Fastest group, instructor group, whatever. I honestly think sometimes instructors are the worst at point bys.
I find with riding with novice/intermediate students if they catch someone and then hang back too far they literally never get the point by, so you need to apply some pressure. Mr. Miata in this video would have gotten a point by a whole lot sooner if he stayed on that 911's *** tighter. The 911 guy probably thought the miata was going full out barrrrelylylyly catching him so didn't need a point by... meanwhile the miata is balancing his cheque book
Another problem is where the heck are the flaggers? Whats the organizer doing? I know there are a lot of different events and they're run different so maybe they let a buddy in a spec miata test and tune in green group where they usually tell the green guys no passing, but that seems unlikely. I saw marshall stations with people in htem but no one was waiving a blue flag? I know if I was in the tower I'd have black flagged this 911 for a chat myself. If someone catches you they are faster, period. let them by. If you're so fast, then you'll catch them again and they'll let you by.
I take great joy in pointing by high horsepower cars on the straight and then proceed to harass the hell out of them in the corners until they crack and let me back by, works best at Lime Rock. Fortunately the high majority of guys I drive with are just as fast or faster in the corners
As someone who started in a '98 Boxster at Sebring who suffered the classic "point-by leading onto the straight only for the car pointing to floor it" too many times for modern computers to calculate, I approve this message. That being said, nothing was more enjoyable than running down higher HP cars and watching drivers start driving on/over the ragged edge when they noticed a
< 200hp car somehow made it onto their bumper.
Why not pull into the hot pit,wait for 45 seconds and be done with it?
Seems a bit harsh for the Turbo driver to pit in, but I guess that’s an option too if he didn’t want to point by quicker drivers.
Kidding aside, this is the advice I give to my students when they come up on a long train of cars. It would be nice if it wasn’t necessary for a single, oblivious driver though.
Seems a bit harsh for the Turbo driver to pit in, but I guess that’s an option too if he didn’t want to point by quicker drivers.
Kidding aside, this is the advice I give to my students when they come up on a long train of cars. It would be nice if it wasn’t necessary for a single, oblivious driver though.
Funny, but I was on the bumper of a 911 for mulitple laps at NHMS. Rather than give me a point by, he pitted in, drove down the pits and pitted out again. Some people!
Why not pull into the hot pit,wait for 45 seconds and be done with it?
Because it does nothing to solve the problem.
If you have some idiot neighbour doing target practice with a rifle in his front lawn going out to the mall for a couple hours might solve the problem for you, at the moment, but does nothing for anyone else, nor does it protect you against it happening again and again.
People that hold people up for 3 laps usually end up with conga lines forming behind them, and are a problem every single session until they learn 'if you're caught you're slower, period', to watch their mirrors, and to point people by. They need to be educated so everyone can use the race track.
People that hold people up for 3 laps usually end up with conga lines forming behind them, and are a problem every single session until they learn 'if you're caught you're slower, period', to watch their mirrors, and to point people by. They need to be educated so everyone can use the race track.
Additionally there is a responsibility of the event organizers to black flag these drivers and reinforce that they need to give point by’s.
05-23-2023 | 07:17 PM
