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Old 05-22-2020, 08:33 PM
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Ummm.. a widower is a husband with a dead wife. Right?
Old 05-22-2020, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by mhm993
Ummm.. a widower is a husband with a dead wife. Right?
Yes you are correct: technically a husband whose spouse died and he did not re-marry.
Maybe 996AE prefers to keep as many options open as possible!
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Not under current conditions. Hoping things may change later in the season, but if not, then still no.

Doesn't need to be a perfect situation, but I'll know what's reasonable when I see it.

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Old 05-22-2020, 09:34 PM
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I would say no. I was taking the year off anyway.

How about an instructor (me) who had COVID-19. Would a student want me in the right seat with my open face helmet. I would guess no.
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Originally Posted by needmoregarage
Yes you are correct: technically a husband whose spouse died and he did not re-marry.
Maybe 996AE prefers to keep as many options open as possible!
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Old 05-23-2020, 08:57 AM
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At this time, no. If I'm going to get infected, I want to do it in the future when docs have effective therapies which are proven to substantially reduce mortality rate. Based on current therapies, average mortality rate is very low for people under 40, significant for people between 40 and 60 (me), and substantial for people over 60, and the shortening of life for those who die from covid is substantial (about a decade, on average: https://wellcomeopenresearch.org/articles/5-75).

If a reliable antibody test becomes available which proves that I have lasting immunity, then I'll go back to living my life as normally as circumstances allow, including getting in the right seat.
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In all seriousness, as much as I believe the quarantine has been a waste, there are certain activities which would bring me in close proximity to other people which I would avoid. Sitting right seat is one of them, so, NO I would not instruct until there is a treatment. (I'm not really interested in a vaccine until its been out there for a while. I saw the movie I am Legend and using an untested vaccine is how you create zombie people. I'm only half-kidding.
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Originally Posted by LuigiVampa
In all seriousness, as much as I believe the quarantine has been a waste, there are certain activities which would bring me in close proximity to other people which I would avoid. Sitting right seat is one of them, so, NO I would not instruct until there is a treatment. (I'm not really interested in a vaccine until its been out there for a while. I saw the movie I am Legend and using an untested vaccine is how you create zombie people. I'm only half-kidding.
I guess our dinner date is out then.

What if I wear a balaclava, N95, and no pants?
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I've stepped back from instructing due to the speed of new cars now but I wouldn't get in the right hand seat now period. There's nothing to gain and everything to lose.
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Originally Posted by jdistefa
I guess our dinner date is out then.

What if I wear a balaclava, N95, and no pants?
If you can get hold of same maple syrup scented hand sanitizer I could be convinced.
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Thank you for the corrections

I am still learning the english language and at times I do and likely will continue errors

Spell check is a great helper but it doesnt catch all

This said I think most of the real men understand my attempt at humor; super hot wife of a dead guy with a GT3 AKA widow YES

Corrections welcome

When a man loses his wife, he becomes a widower. The equivalent name for a woman whose husband dies is a widow. In many cases, a man is only referred to as a widower if he has not remarried. Both a widow and a widower are described as being widowed.
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Originally Posted by 996AE
Thank you for the corrections

I am still learning the english language and at times I do and likely will continue errors

Spell check is a great helper but it doesnt catch all

This said I think most of the real men understand my attempt at humor; super hot wife of a dead guy with a GT3 AKA widow YES

Corrections welcome

When a man loses his wife, he becomes a widower. The equivalent name for a woman whose husband dies is a widow. In many cases, a man is only referred to as a widower if he has not remarried. Both a widow and a widower are described as being widowed.
Did the late husband pass from covid-19 complications?
Old 05-23-2020, 01:13 PM
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Need to bear in mind that instructing means being in close contact with exactly ONE random person for the weekend. So the probability that you are fighting against is that this one person is currently a virus carrier but asymptomatic. Very different from being in a crowd for an hour, say, and collecting breath samples from perhaps dozens or hundreds of people.

But that's just a thought experiment. Clearly right-seat instruction is out for a while, if not for a couple of seasons.

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Originally Posted by roadie13
Need to bear in mind that instructing means being in close contact with exactly ONE random person for the weekend. So the probability that you are fighting against is that this one person is currently a virus carrier but asymptomatic. Very different from being in a crowd for an hour, say, and collecting breath samples from perhaps dozens or hundreds of people.

But that's just a thought experiment. Clearly right-seat instruction is out for a while, if not for a couple of seasons.
Very valid point. Have you been grocery shopping, Home Depot, pumped gas, etc.? I probably bump into more random people on an average day versus the risk of one person throughout the day instructing.
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Originally Posted by LuigiVampa
Very valid point. Have you been grocery shopping, Home Depot, pumped gas, etc.? I probably bump into more random people on an average day versus the risk of one person throughout the day instructing.
Exactly, I'm probably more at risk from my occasional stroll through lower Manhattan. Come to think of it, maybe the student wouldn't want to go left seat with me!


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