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Old 10-03-2019, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Veloce Raptor
Colin makes a good suggestion. May I offer another one?

The same concept, except the "committee" (I hate that word) is made up of 3 or 5 professional coaches. There are plenty of us who work often with PCA racers. To avoid conflicts of interest, if one of the committee members is coaching a racer involved in a dispute the committee has been asked to adjudicate, he or she is recused.

This would bring a different level of experience to the table, and would also remove any perception of an old boys' club.
The only flaw with this suggestion is I want someone just as clueless as me judging me.
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Originally Posted by Veloce Raptor
The same concept, except the "committee" (I hate that word) is made up of 3 or 5 professional coaches. There are plenty of us who work often with PCA racers. To avoid conflicts of interest, if one of the committee members is coaching a racer involved in a dispute the committee has been asked to adjudicate, he or she is recused.
Dave, I like this even better. Can we volunteer David Murray to be the chair .
Old 10-03-2019, 08:32 PM
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That's a good idea. And I'd be part of it. Maybe Peter Krause. Maybe Grant Maiman? We just need one more
Old 10-04-2019, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Veloce Raptor
That's a good idea. And I'd be part of it. Maybe Peter Krause. Maybe Grant Maiman? We just need one more
We'll need a none coach there no? Thinking about unlikely scenarios when people under examination are coaching clients.
Old 10-04-2019, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by FredC
We'll need a none coach there no? Thinking about unlikely scenarios when people under examination are coaching clients.
I was only half-serious with my post. We need a guy who will look at a really stupid situation and say "I could see myself doing that".

As a matter of fact - I think I am overqualified for the position!
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Originally Posted by FredC
We'll need a none coach there no? Thinking about unlikely scenarios when people under examination are coaching clients.
I addressed that in my original suggestion regarding recusal
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Originally Posted by Veloce Raptor
I addressed that in my original suggestion regarding recusal
Got it. Read too quick.

Let's do it.
Old 10-04-2019, 09:28 AM
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It is a 100% serious suggestion, and I volunteer to help
Old 10-09-2019, 07:10 PM
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While I appreciate the offer of an oversight committee, I believe we are trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist. Let's come at this from another direction. How about someone who believes they were wronged after appealing their 13/13, post the full information here including the appeal decision, and let the world see if the response appears to be "random". Failing that, send it to Dave and see what he thinks. Full background, all videos and the response....

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Excellent idea. I concur.
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Originally Posted by Weston Dillard
While I appreciate the offer of an oversight committee, I believe we are trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist. Let's come at this from another direction. How about someone who believes they were wronged after appealing their 13/13, post the full information here including the appeal decision, and let the world see if the response appears to be "random". Failing that, send it to Dave and Peter, and see what they think. Full background, all videos and the response....

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Originally Posted by LuigiVampa
Trial by Rennlist? I thought we had that already!

Hahaha I don't think that's what he has in mind!
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Ya. I'd like people to understand the level of analysis, and explanation, that goes with an appeal. But it's not my goal to drag anyone, including the appeal reviewers, through trial by Rennlist, as Luigi calls it.

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I can't speak for Peter. However, I am on board to help with West's idea. Obviously, if I was coaching one of the affected parties on the weekend in question, I'll recuse myself.

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