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Old 07-25-2019, 02:57 PM
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Default How dangerous and slippery are tar snakes ?

Are those tar patches considered to be slick compared to pavement?
On public roads, I get scared when my tires get near that stuff



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Depends on a lot of factors. In the wet, may be a concern.

In the dry, less so.
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I’ve seen them be problematic for motorcycles but not so much for cars.
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If they are a serious problem for you then you will be upset when you loose your license. Nothing to a good driver in wet, dry, or snow.
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Originally Posted by winders
I’ve seen them be problematic for motorcycles but not so much for cars.
After some Google searching, it seems these things can kill motorcyclists
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At first I thought this was a joke.. it's a pretty cool pic, looks just like a snake.. But now I gota ask: why are these a big deal?

Maybe the ones around here are different, but it's just I strip of hardened tar, just like the rest of the road.
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Originally Posted by sugarwood
After some Google searching, it seems these things can kill motorcyclists
Yes, I certainly avoided them on the road when leaned over. A friend of mine died from internal injuries up in the Santa Cruz mountains after rolling over a Bott's dot while leaned over. He low-sided and slid off the road into some trees. Anything that alters the grip of the pavement is bad for bikes when leaned over.
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Originally Posted by winders
Yes, I certainly avoided them on the road when leaned over. A friend of mine died from internal injuries up in the Santa Cruz mountains after rolling over a Bott's dot while leaned over. He low-sided and slid off the road into some trees. Anything that alters the grip of the pavement is bad for bikes when leaned over.
For sure with the size of the contact patch. All kinds of challenges out there four-wheelers don't even think about, right?
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For sure with the size of the contact patch. All kinds of challenges out there four-wheelers don't even think about, right?
Yes. Not only the size of the contact patch but the fact that bikes are leaned over. So any massive change in traction, no matter how brief, can lead to problems a car would be barely notice.
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They are slick but narrow. Because of that it’s a real issue for bikes with their small contact patches but car tires are so large and flat you have one on the inside and another on the outside so it’s no issue in normal scenarios.
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Originally Posted by jscott82
Maybe the ones around here are different, but it's just I strip of hardened tar, just like the rest of the road.
In July on a 90+ degree day there is nothing hard about them, they turn very soft. Not fun on a pedal bike even when going in a straight line.
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Not as slippery as the tar elephants and tar whales at MidOhio in the wet...
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Originally Posted by winders
Yes, I certainly avoided them on the road when leaned over. A friend of mine died from internal injuries up in the Santa Cruz mountains after rolling over a Bott's dot while leaned over. He low-sided and slid off the road into some trees. Anything that alters the grip of the pavement is bad for bikes when leaned over.
That could have been except in the Shenandoah Mountains in VA. Going around a 270 degree turn and went a little wide and hit a reflector.. slide under a guard rail, totaled the Ducati and banged my self up badly. Was mm from my collarbone punching through my aorta (saw the X-ray scary).
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I saw a Tar Bunny at Sebring.

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Originally Posted by Kein_Ersatz
Not as slippery as the tar elephants and tar whales at MidOhio in the wet...
That entire track is one big tar snake.

Gary
.....watching Indycar there right now......



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