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Old 06-09-2019, 04:35 PM
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Default Canadian Grand Prix - Great Race Ruined by Stewards

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No. Stewards didn't force Vettel off track and that mistake would have cost him his position if he didn't make sure that he blocked Hamilton and run him into the wall. That was his only chance to save his position and he executed it well. I don't believe that he couldn't have kept the car a little to the left if he had let it just roll off the grass and back on the track. His first move once he hit pavement again was to get on the gas and steer sharply to THE RIGHT to close the door on Hamilton. He wasn't just a passenger. He didn't have to do that. The race stewards (I think all experienced former racers) saw this and judged correctly. It was a great race despite the incident.
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And of course, it's not like LH hasn't ever done that to someone else, without penalty...

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Old 06-09-2019, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ProCoach
And of course, it's not like LH hasn't ever done that to someone else, without penalty...

https://youtu.be/haqpopZyvwc
Technically speaking he did leave a car width room at all times and only bluffed with a threat of closing the door. Ricardo fell for his bluff and didn't want to risk being pushed into the armco. ****ty move but I could see the stewards not penalizing him on technical grounds as there was car width room left at all times. Vettel completely closed the door on Hamilton, not just threaten to do so. I think that's what made the stewards decide differently.
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Originally Posted by hf1
No. Stewards didn't force Vettel off track and that mistake would have cost him his position if he didn't make sure that he blocked Hamilton and run him into the wall. That was his only chance to save his position and he executed it well. I don't believe that he couldn't have kept the car a little to the left if he had let it just roll off the grass and back on the track. His first move once he hit pavement again was to get on the gas and steer sharply to THE RIGHT to close the door on Hamilton. He wasn't just a passenger. He didn't have to do that. The race stewards (I think all experienced former racers) saw this and judged correctly. It was a great race despite the incident.
This is stupid. He didn't steer to right to block Lewis once he re-entered the track. The car was still loose and had another wobble he caught then went straight down the road.

Serious joke of a decision. Worst case stewards should have have him let Lewis past and contribute on.
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Kinda tough to drive through grass and have any traction thereafter. In my mind, Seb was a hero for saving it after that wiggle....

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Originally Posted by hf1
No. Stewards didn't force Vettel off track and that mistake would have cost him his position if he didn't make sure that he blocked Hamilton and run him into the wall. That was his only chance to save his position and he executed it well. I don't believe that he couldn't have kept the car a little to the left if he had let it just roll off the grass and back on the track. His first move once he hit pavement again was to get on the gas and steer sharply to THE RIGHT to close the door on Hamilton. He wasn't just a passenger. He didn't have to do that. The race stewards (I think all experienced former racers) saw this and judged correctly. It was a great race despite the incident.
Wow. You obviously have terrible eyes and know nothing about grass and momentum......
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Absolutely crap call by the stewards. Let them race. I don't believe for a second that VET was trying to block HAM in his recovery efforts.
I also have no problem with VET's irritation afterwards and switching the podium signs around. I thought that was 'classic' F1 stuff - loved it. Oh my God, he's human.
VET also made a point of telling the crowd not to boo HAM, but rather the stewards.
I've been such an F1 fan for so many years but the way the sport has gone in recent years is driving me away.
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Outside of that incident, it was a boring race; could barely keep my eyes open. I can see both sides of the argument and can flip-flop either way on it. So the stewards decision stands, and it would make no real difference in the drivers' or teams' championship standings if they didn't impose the penalty anyway.
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Even when Vettel wins, he loses. If it wasn’t for bad luck...

The best part of the broadcast was when Vettel finally brought himself to enter parc ferme and he switched the no .1 and no. 2 signs moving no. 1 to his position and no. 2 to Hammy’s.
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Vettel was trying not to slam that car into one of the concrete walls after losing the rear. That had exactly dick **** to do with trying to block Hamilton. They are both lucky that event didn't end both of their races. It could have gone very differently.
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Great call. Go Hamilton. Raced his *** off and forced that mistake.
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Force a mistake so give an erroneous penalty? Bad call by the stewards has nothing to do with why Vettel ran wide in the first place.
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Originally Posted by hf1
No. Stewards didn't force Vettel off track and that mistake would have cost him his position if he didn't make sure that he blocked Hamilton and run him into the wall. That was his only chance to save his position and he executed it well. I don't believe that he couldn't have kept the car a little to the left if he had let it just roll off the grass and back on the track. His first move once he hit pavement again was to get on the gas and steer sharply to THE RIGHT to close the door on Hamilton. He wasn't just a passenger. He didn't have to do that. The race stewards (I think all experienced former racers) saw this and judged correctly. It was a great race despite the incident.
No offense, but you may not understand the physics of putting down 1000 hp with a loose car and grass on all 4 tires. Video shows that VET didn't even track out onto the outside curbing. If HAM takes an inside line after he sees VET go off, HAM clears VET by a country mile.

There's no one laughing at F1 and Liberty Media harder than Bernie right now... what a fvcking joke F1 has become and how the mighty have fallen. Wonder how much time and effort it'll take to get back to where they were before.
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Originally Posted by multi21
Wonder how much time and effort it'll take to get back to where they were before.
May be too late... And like NASCAR, they are HIGHLY unlikely to get back to where they were before.


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