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Old 05-20-2019, 03:07 PM
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Default McLaren has "no excuses" for Alonso's Indy 500 failure

Bruce is spinning in his grave.

What a mess McLaren has become. If my Google searching is accurate, McLaren hasn't won a race since 2012.

https://www.motorsport.com/indycar/n...y-500/4392236/


McLaren CEO Zak Brown says his team has "no excuses" for its failure to qualify for the Indianapolis 500, following Fernando Alonso's shock exit on Bump Day.
Alonso has set his sights on winning the Indy 500 to secure motor racing's Triple Crown, but his plans to achieve that feat this year were wrecked on Sunday night when he failed to secure one of the final three spots in the starting line-up.

His last-ditch effort of 227.353mph was pipped right at the end by Kyle Kaiser in the Juncos Racing car, whose 227.372mph was enough to secure him the final spot on the grid.

While McLaren sporting director Gil de Ferran has openly apologised to Alonso for not giving him a car that was quick enough to allow him to qualify, Brown is clear that the outfit can only blame itself for what happened.

Posting on social media, Brown wrote: "Incredibly disappointed for the fans, our team, our partners and Fernando that we will not be racing in the Indy500 this year.

"It was always going to be a hard road but no excuses - we didn't get the job done. Credit and respect to those who did.

"I'm sorry we couldn't put McLaren and Fernando in the race. The team put their heart and soul into it and I thank them. We know where we went wrong and we'll fix it."

De Ferran told media on Sunday night that Alonso's failure to qualify was the most painful experience of his racing career, but is adamant that the team will regroup and return for another effort in 2020.

Clearly overwhelmed with disappointment, de Ferran later spoke on Twitter and said: "We took a huge challenge.

"We knew that this was going to be difficult all the way, and we were racing against some very experienced teams in IndyCar and, unfortunately, we came up a little short. Try as we might, we came up a little short and it's very painful.

He added: "The racer in me, the fighter in me, wants to come back. I want to start tomorrow and I want to meet this challenge head on. Fernando spoke well earlier, at least we're here fighting. Sometimes you fail but we're here fighting,. This is a challenge that I want to meet and I want to come back."

https://www.indystar.com/story/sport...ms/3670736002/

Doyel: Fernando Alonso out of 2019 Indy 500 because McLaren wasn't prepared

INDIANAPOLIS – Fernando Alonso is watching his spot in the 2019 Indianapolis 500 disappear on Sunday, and he’s surrounded by media, and he’s not happy about this. Not happy at all. He has been doing a slow burn for almost 24 hours now, since his first attempts at qualifying on Saturday were a disaster, since his McLaren team worked on his car overnight, since he went back on the track earlier Sunday and left a trail of sparks because his car was, impossibly, sitting too low.

A few minutes ago he had climbed out of his car and into a nightmare, reporters and cameras pressing in, and his spot in the 2019 Indy 500 going, going … but not gone. Not yet. But he can see what’s happening.

Six drivers are competing for the final three spots – the Last Row Shootout, this is called – and after four drivers have gone, Alonso is third behind Sage Karam and James Hinchcliffe. Alonso is on the precipice, 33rd of 33 cars in the field, with two drivers left: Patricio O’Ward and Kyle Kaiser.

Alonso’s lips are pursed but IndyCar has rules, and he’s class guy and a team player – he’s trying, he’s really trying – but he’s straining to see if his spot in the Indy 500 is gone, and he doesn’t know. And now it’s time to do a quick television interview near the finish line.

“I’m not even able to look because we have like 50 of you (media members) here in front,” he tells the television reporter. “If only you will tell me.”

Alonso keeps talking, but O’Ward’s car is hurtling toward the area, drowning out whatever Alonso is saying. O’Ward is gone. Now Alonso’s voice can be heard.

“… I understand it’s a big deal,” he says of the drama, his plight, this man considered among the most talented drivers in the world hoping to hang on as the 33rd fastest driver of 2019 Indy 500 qualifying. “There is a lot of attention, we understand that, but hopefully we can do better.”

He’s not talking about the race car.

Now the interview is over and O’Ward is still going around the track and Alonso turns to the fans crowding in. One hands him an Indy 500 ticket and a Sharpie. Alonso takes both, signs his name, and returns them. Another fan, this one in an orange Fernando Alonso hat, asks for a selfie. Alonso obliges. This is why fans love him. The guy gets it, OK? But this is hard.

And this whole effort has been beneath Alonso. Not his driving, not necessarily, but for sure the preparation around him, which turned strange Sunday morning when Alonso’s team turned the IMS paddock into a place of commerce according to IndyStar insider Jim Ayello, purchasing dampers for their car from Andretti Autosport.

Alonso’s entry into the 2019 Indy 500, his first time back since he finished 24th in his debut in 2017, was announced seven months ago, but it seems his team didn’t take it as seriously as they might have. The results on Saturday and earlier Sunday speak for themselves, but people in Alonso’s camp were telling reporters quietly, not for attribution, “We didn’t come prepared.”

(Later, Alonso will say the team went into the weekend with a race strategy that needed work.)

That includes the makeup of his team, experienced at IMS but not exactly an all-star crew befitting an all-star driver. Remember, after working on Alonso’s car all night, his crew sent a car onto the track Sunday morning that was sitting too low, scraping the pavement, shooting sparks. They pulled the car from the track, made adjustments, and sent it back onto the track.

More sparks.

The incompetence has been breathtaking, as is what happened during the rain delay Sunday.

In one garage at IMS, James Hinchcliffe’s garage, it is quiet. His car is ready even if it was a road car basically 24 hours earlier. Hinch’s crew reinvented the team’s backup car overnight after he crashed his main car Saturday, and now they are standing in a circle outside the garage, enjoying the sun. One of them is eating a slice of pizza.

Around the corner is Alonso’s garage. Much different scene at 3:25 p.m., roughly an hour before showtime. With a crowd of about 50 fans staring, one crew member is lying on his back under the front of the car, working feverishly. Two are toward the rear, where the sparks were shooting. A fourth is on the side of the car, holding a wrench and asking a question:

“How long do we have?”

The first crew member, the one near the front, looks at his watch and says something. Here comes a fifth crew member. And a sixth. The area around Alonso’s car is an anthill of activity, and here comes a seventh guy from behind a wall. Now an eighth.

Less than an hour later the car is towed to the track, where Alonso races four times around at an average speed of 227.353 mph. Karam goes next, then O’Ward, and now Kaiser. The second-year driver from Juncos Racing is crossing the bricks for the fourth and final time of his four-lap qualifying effort, and the entire scene is surreal:

Rain has delayed Sunday’s qualifying for more than four hours, and a once-robust crowd is gone. The grandstands at Indianapolis Motor Speedway are almost empty. Above the finish line, above the bricks, there are about 300 fans. I’ve seen bigger crowds at JV basketball games, but then, this is Indiana.

But that’s the Indianapolis 500, for heaven’s sake, and Fernando Alonso is one of the most famous drivers in the world, and wait – the results are in. Kaiser has finished in 227.372 mph, third of the six drivers in the Final Row Shootout. Alonso is 34th. He's out.

Alonso has been watching on a hand-held TV monitor near the fans, near the media, and he is whisked away to a waiting golf cart. He is trying to smile, but not quite pulling it off.

Moments later he walks onto an elevator at the media center, where he is determined to speak to reporters as quickly as possible. There are six of us on the elevator, and Alonso is letting down his guard. He takes off his sunglasses and glares. He is scratching at his neck, then going under his fire suit with his fingers, clawing at his chest. Someone is suggesting he head back to the track. He doesn’t need to do an interview now.

“Everyone will think we’re hiding,” he says, and the elevator continues to rise. “Everyone’s following us. They’re not even following the first nine.”

It’s mostly true. The biggest story Sunday during 2019 Indianapolis 500 qualifying was the failure of Fernando Alonso to qualify,not Simon Pagenaud’s pole or the continued Indianapolis 500 qualifying dominance of Butler grad Ed Carpenter, starting on the front row at the Indy 500 again, second this year, ahead of two Ed Carpenter Racing teammates: Spencer Pigot (third) and Ed Jones (fourth).

Alonso is waiting to speak to the media, but there has been a change of plans. He is told he has an hour to wait. He can stay here, an IMS official is saying, or he can take a golf cart back to his …

Fernando Alonso doesn’t wait for the rest of that sentence. He’s heading to the elevator, heading back down. His descent continues. So will the 103rd Indianapolis 500. Without him.




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heads are starting to roll- gardening leave is English for fired
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It wasn't Alonso's fault. That part is clear.

I bet Hinch was sweating too.
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How Alonso reacts to this will be telling - I hope he’s eager as ever to come back and have another crack at it, but I feel like with him there’s an equal chance of this experience souring him on the entire event, and thus the Triple Crown.
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As great a driver as Alonso was/is, it’s simply incredible how bad his off track moves have been... it’s like a black cloud hangs over his head where ever he’s gone for the past 13 years
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Some are theorizing that the McLaren/Alonso "bad-mouthing" of Honda had an impact here. Certainly it shut off the opportunity to team up with Andretti Autosport, which worked very well for Alonso's first crack at the 500. But it seems that the McLaren team were seeking help in a number of ways from various teams in the run-up to bump day and availability and degree of the help may also have been impacted.

I am disappointed as I was really looking forward to seeing Alonso in it again, he did really well last time...
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After this debacle I’ll be surprised if Alonso continues to waste his time with McLaren. He can get an Indy ride with a competitive team if he wants. What does he need McLaren for?
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He simply picked the wrong brand, owner and ride. Put him in a top car and he would have been front row.
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Originally Posted by 500
Some are theorizing that the McLaren/Alonso "bad-mouthing" of Honda had an impact here. Certainly it shut off the opportunity to team up with Andretti Autosport, which worked very well for Alonso's first crack at the 500. But it seems that the McLaren team were seeking help in a number of ways from various teams in the run-up to bump day and availability and degree of the help may also have been impacted..
There was talk on some social media pages of people urging McLaren to let some Indy engineers setup the car, they were overthinking it and making things worse. The final setup was after an all nighter before the last row bump day where they switched to shock settings from Andretti and other bits from Penske. Thanks to the rain Alonso had no time to test the setup, first time out with the "new" car was his last attempt.

So yes, he needs to ditch McLaren for good and give the Captain a call.


https://jalopnik.com/you-have-no-ide...ime-1834904247




You Have No Idea How Much McLaren Blew It This Time

Among all the times McLaren has blown it, this might be the most blown that it has ever been. You already know that two-time Formula One world champion Fernando Alonso failed to qualify for the Indianapolis 500 on Sunday. But what you may not know is just how unprepared his McLaren team was for the qualifying effort. There are metric tons of anecdotal evidence that McLaren has bigger problems in Jenna Fryer’s new report for the Associated Press.

I’ve followed motorsport for decades, and the closest thing I’ve seen to a ****-up this big is the Nissan GT-R LM NISMO LMP1 effort. And boy howdy is that saying something.

The team forgot to buy a steering wheel until a week before the car had to run, and it was the CEO who had to track one down.

The path to missing the 33-driver field began when the car was not ready the moment Texas Motor Speedway opened for the April test. Brown had personally secured a steering wheel the previous week from Cosworth to use for the test, and the mistakes piled up from there.

Following Alonso’s crash on Wednesday, the team had to rush to get the backup car ready to go, as it hadn’t even been painted yet. The McLaren team was forced to sit out of practice on Thursday while they built the backup car to run. By contrast James Hinchcliffe crashed his car during Saturday qualifying and his Schmidt Petersen team was able to get the backup car built up and ready to go out again in two and a half hours.

The most mind-boggling missteps were made Sunday. First came a wholesale change of the car to a new setup cribbed from Penske and shock absorber settings worked out with Andretti, but...

in the frantic changeover a mistake was made in converting inches to the metric system the English team uses and the car scraped and sparked on his first lap.

And adding insult to injury...

McLaren discovered after the qualifying run that the car had the wrong gear ratio setup.

That’s right, Alonso’s car was given gear ratios that maxed out at a 227.5 mph lap, which might explain his 227.35 mph four-lap average. Team boss Zak Brown claims the car was capable of 229 with the right gears.

Wow, McLaren really stepped in the **** this time, eh?

What I’ve given you here is more than enough to earn a motorsport effort some big fat goose eggs, but it’s not even half of the stuff they did. I won’t dare give away everything, as Jenna worked really hard on this report and you should definitely click right here to go read her full summary of McLaren’s gobsmackingly ridiculous comedy of errors. It’s worth it.

My god, won’t someone give Fernando Alonso a good car? Oh wait, he’s going to go for another Le Mans 24 win with Toyota next month. Eh, that’ll do.


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Originally Posted by Hacker-Pschorr
There was talk on some social media pages of people urging McLaren to let some Indy engineers setup the car, they were overthinking it and making things worse. The final setup was after an all nighter before the last row bump day where they switched to shock settings from Andretti and other bits from Penske. Thanks to the rain Alonso had no time to test the setup, first time out with the "new" car was his last attempt.

So yes, he needs to ditch McLaren for good and give the Captain a call.
Yep, what a mess...

One of the Penske car chiefs corrected me when I repeated that bit about Penske contributions elsewhere. He said "fake news," but sympathized with Alonso that they (Carlin/Brown/McLaren) stepped on it the whole time they were there...

Damn shame, the guy can pedal a car. Did great last year. Would have like to see him out front this year, but it was not to be.

HUGE shout out to Geoff Abel, Dougie Livingston and Morgan Britnell, pick-up crew for Pippa Mann's successful effort. Normally, you can see these guys hard at work under Mike Bavaro's BodyMotion Racing tent on any given PCA weekend.

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Originally Posted by multi21
As great a driver as Alonso was/is, it’s simply incredible how bad his off track moves have been... it’s like a black cloud hangs over his head where ever he’s gone for the past 13 years
Well, he and his teammates are leading their sister car at Toyota; and the #7 car is manned by very good drivers. So far that has proved a good move.

Originally Posted by 500
Some are theorizing that the McLaren/Alonso "bad-mouthing" of Honda had an impact here. Certainly it shut off the opportunity to team up with Andretti Autosport, which worked very well for Alonso's first crack at the 500. But it seems that the McLaren team were seeking help in a number of ways from various teams in the run-up to bump day and availability and degree of the help may also have been impacted.

I am disappointed as I was really looking forward to seeing Alonso in it again, he did really well last time...
Earlier in the lead up to this years Indy 500, McLaren/Alonso were trying to determine how they would enter the event. McLaren was hoping to be more involved this year, but they had a very good relationship with Andretti and were wanting to continue the relationship. However, with Andretti tied to Honda and Alonso now racing for Toyota, it was not going to happen. My understanding was Toyota would not allow him to race with Honda and Andretti could not create a "branch" team for McLaren with a Chevy motor without upsetting Honda. I think a Penske seat would have been great this year, but I thought there was a past Penske/McLaren rivalry in IndyCar. Maybe they approached them, but Roger didn't feel he could successfully field another car or want McLaren under his umbrella.

Since I'm sidelined from the track at the moment with some injuries, I was hoping to root for Alonso this Memorial w/end, now maybe I'll pull for Pagenaud. No real favorites now. Fernando's got to be wondering if he should part with McLaren. I think he likes this team and they like him, but he's got to be wondering if they have the technical and executable savvy to win anymore.

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Originally Posted by ProCoach
HUGE shout out to Geoff Abel, Dougie Livingston and Morgan Britnell, pick-up crew for Pippa Mann's successful effort. Normally, you can see these guys hard at work under Mike Bavaro's BodyMotion Racing tent on any given PCA weekend.

Rock stars, all of them.
Pretty incredible underdog story. Hope they do well next weekend.
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Originally Posted by Jim Devine
heads are starting to roll- gardening leave is English for fired
https://www.racefans.net/2019/05/20/...-for-indy-500/
Is "Cheesburger Zak" Brown the right guy to lead McLaren's race teams, F1 or Indy?
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Originally Posted by Jim Devine
heads are starting to roll- gardening leave is English for fired
https://www.racefans.net/2019/05/20/...-for-indy-500/
When I lived there, gardening leave was a euphemism for "I resigned and have a job with a competitor ".

YMMV
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Originally Posted by okie981
Is "Cheesburger Zak" Brown the right guy to lead McLaren's race teams, F1 or Indy?
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