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Old 04-16-2019, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Kein_Ersatz
All good Chairs are open to the input, but be polite and do not forget to thank the VOLUNTEERS and Chairs for all they do - so you can race. Seems like they explained why the change.
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Thank you for your comments which are spot on..
I believe everyone who has spoken with you, including myself, has walked away knowing that you are trying to improve the event. We may not agree - but there is only good intent.

I'm hoping we have our little experiment this year and then it goes back to 90 minutes in 2020.
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Originally Posted by Mike in Chi
Fred!!!!
How ya been?
I see you're registered. Let me buy at Seneca Lodge so we can catch up

will take you up on it. Registered for E but will be renting a spb as my new build E car won’t be anywhere ready, and it’s my fault. See you at the Glen my friend.

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Old 04-16-2019, 09:32 PM
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I will be there, racing Lou Betstadt's number 50 F-class 911. For those of you that knew him the car will be unchanged. His entire crew will be assembled to help get me through the weekend. Please find his car in the paddock. His trailer will be there also. Stop over, tell some stories, share a laugh or two. We miss him dearly but will carry on exactly how he wished.

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Old 04-17-2019, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by FredC
will take you up on it. Registered for E but will be renting a spb as my new build E car won’t be anywhere ready, and it’s my fault. See you at the Glen my friend.
Wish I could be there to witness the return of Fast Freddy!!
Old 04-17-2019, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Kein_Ersatz
All good Chairs are open to the input, but be polite and do not forget to thank the VOLUNTEERS and Chairs for all they do - so you can race. Seems like they explained why the change.

From Club Reg Page:
**After the morning warm-up sessions, we will have three 60 minute Enduro races that will run back-to-back through the normal Watkins Glen lunch hour. This will allow for maximum participation with no refueling and drivers being able to do the whole Enduro with or without a co-driver or team support. The change also makes for an earlier finish and the ability to get home at a more reasonable time.
Seem like volunteers are contributing too - working thru lunch on Sunday. So everyone can get home earlier.

Organizing Track events, be it DE or CR or combo of both, comes with a lot of "parties" to satisfy and an army of non racing VOLUNTEERS to recruit - who put in all their time so others can enjoy a weekend of safe fun. I have watched at the end of many a Club Race when the 1st (2nd or even 3rd) enduro drivers are packing up and leaving for home while the Sunday CR volunteers continue to work to the end of the enduo day. Don't begrudge them the opportunity to get home a little earlier too.

Have fun, be safe out there.
That is well said. It is amazing the amount of work for all people involved in either a DE or PCA Club Racing event. While I am no longer a DE or CR participant, I can understand there are many differing opinons out there. All the best to everyone at the Glen this year, and especially thanks to Pete Tremper and his team of volunteers for the 2019 event.
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Current tally is 131 in the sprint and 99 in the enduro.
Old 04-17-2019, 01:26 PM
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The volunteers deserve way more Thanks than they get
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Originally Posted by Gary R.
Wish I could be there to witness the return of Fast Freddy!!
I expect Fred to earn a new nickname:

Even Faster Freddy
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A big Plus one for Lou's memory. Thanks Don.

and big props for all who volunteer to put on a Club Race event. Being involved in another PCA race event, I do value the time and effort all those people put in. It is a huge load but everyone knows it going in. If they don't they don't come back. Ignoring the overwhelming wishes of the paying customer to reward the staff does not seem like a good plan to build the customer base.
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Originally Posted by FredC
will take you up on it. Registered for E but will be renting a spb as my new build E car won’t be anywhere ready, and it’s my fault. See you at the Glen my friend.
Welcome back Fred!!
Old 04-17-2019, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 38D
Current tally is 131 in the sprint and 99 in the enduro.
Now 150 sprint & 105 enduro. Looks like pretty good numbers for enduro.
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Originally Posted by Nizer
Now 150 sprint & 105 enduro. Looks like pretty good numbers for enduro.
I'm pretty sure that is the ratio it has been at in the past so I don't know if we are going to get an answer based on registration.

It would be interesting to do a show of hands vote among the enduro racers at a drivers meeting to see who wants 60 versus 90 minutes.

PCA is having to compete with AER and other race series. As someone else mentioned, sending home the workers early on Sunday is not a winning business model. We are there to race.

Any way you slice it being at the race track is better than the office.
Old 04-18-2019, 08:40 AM
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quick note for the E field - no need to show up...according to Rennpoints I have you all covered
Old 04-18-2019, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Sean F
quick note for the E field - no need to show up...according to Rennpoints I have you all covered
You picked up over 5 seconds by just staying away! I'm going to wait a couple years and sign up just to see What Rennpoints gives me as a bonus!
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Originally Posted by Gary R.
You picked up over 5 seconds by just staying away! I'm going to wait a couple years and sign up just to see What Rennpoints gives me as a bonus!
I'm guessing they found out about the 3.8 i just stuffed in


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