LuigiVampa

I'll see you your slow F car and raise you a J car that parks it in the corners and then motors away on every straight!

M_Weining

Yep there are classes, but the focus is more on racing the vintage car you have with fun, clean, and respectful racing for all the cars.

Race the cars around you and enjoy being able to race these wonderful cars realizing they are expensive to repair.


Typically have three (3) thirty minutes sprint races each weekend. No enduros.


Links for more info:
https://pcaclubracing.org/vintage/
https://pcaclubracing.org/wp-content...cing-Rules.pdf (page 66)



excerpt from rules:

Eligible models: Only 1989 or older air cooled (356, 911, 912, or 914) Porsches (excluding 1989 964). Year legal 911 tubs, (’89 and older) must have period correct body work.

Drivers of cars with modern bodywork are welcome to apply to compete in the VGTU and VGTO classes. Those cars will be evaluated by the Vintage Competition Committee. Send requests (with photos) to Vintage Coordinator Fred Pfeiffer at fpfeiffer@atlanticbb.net

1. Classes:
2. Performance: Air cooled engine displacement is open, subject to the six class criteria. Cars must, at a minimum, be eligible
to run in PCA Club Racing. Tires are free.

3. Practice and Sprint Run groups: The Vintage Group will run in separate, Vintage only, sessions. Races will be 30 minutes or less.

4. National Championship points are not available for Vintage Group races.

Questions about classing or other rules should be directed to Vintage Coordinator Fred Pfeiffer using form on this page: https://pcaclubracing.org/vintage/

sbelles

I don't think competitiveness is really a concern. Just fun with relatively less risk.

Gary R.

Wait, tires are free as in slicks are allowed? That would be interesting to try!!

hf1

So this adds six new PCA classes. Were there complaints that there are not enough PCA CR classes and that class fields were too large? How is regular, "non-vintage" PCA club racing less fun or riskier than vintage group racing?

M_Weining

I have participated in 3 PCA Vintage Group Race weekends (9 races) and what I have experienced is a much more aware and considerate group of racers who appreciate these older cars and understand the high cost to repair and hence race with a bit more conservatism then I have seen in the regular PCA races. Just as Regular PCA racers are generally more conservative then those racing in the Profession Porsche Super Cup races. It comes down to mind set, priorities.

Frank 993 C4S summarised nicely in this thread: "Great like minded people with good experience levels (guess vintage also refers to the drivers), taking care of each other at the track. A class with a minimal compliance system with no bickering about the rules (there are virtually none) and other than breakdowns, no incidences."

So far the PCA Vintage Group series has been very successful at getting many retired PCA racecars and racers back out racing in addition to attracting racers from other vintage series and some new racers who want to race vintage air-cooled Porsches. The series is growing with more race weekends and more participation each year since it started in 2016. It has also help increase overall event participation at several locations. Further, those watching the races have seemed to really like seeing more older Porsche's out racing.

Gary R.

And here I thought it was safer because you kept the SPB's out!

M_Weining

What, heck no, those SPB racers always leave lots of room for each other.

sbelles

So where are all the 944 cup cars? We've got 18 SPBs but only 10 SPs. It should be a blast, especially with rain on Fri shuffling the field for Sat but a split start would have been even more fun.

will968

It's not a bad showing for 944. Practice will be a s-show, but guess who just bought some Hoosier rains Now I need to get them mounted in time

sbelles

Could be with you guys flying by on Hoosier rains while we slip slide away on Toyos. The speed differential at Summit when it was pouring was huge.

Edit: The forcast now says 70% chance on Sat too. Gonna be a wet, cold but fun weekend.

will968

Rats! I wonder how early for the rain though - like 3am Could be slicks on a drying track, or your Toyo rains - a good inter.

Sean F

and no weight restriction !!! I'm going light, baby

M_Weining

Plus chip with the higher rev limit if you have one!

Sean F

shhhhhh! People might be listening