Introducing on-track liability insurance
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Great Questions!
C: In regards to passengers no, passengers in your car are not covered for bodily injury. The policy's intent is to protect our member against damage to other cars, other drivers and property of other people (including track owned property).
C3: No, organized speed events pertains to competitive events. We cover all HPDE, testing and member day driving for both our PD and Liability policy, the only thing excluded is competitive events.
G: The exclusion does not apply to any track waivers. The contract actually states "this exclusion does not apply to liability for damages: assumed by you or an “additional driver” in any waiver or disclaimer signed at a “scheduled track” as a pre*condition for being allowed to drive on that track.
In regards to the last question, our policy covers physical damage and bodily injury both. You would need to check with the PCA/SCCA on what exactly their policy covers for you in the instance of a loss.
Let us know if you have any further questions and please keep the feedback and any answers you get elsewhere coming!
C: In regards to passengers no, passengers in your car are not covered for bodily injury. The policy's intent is to protect our member against damage to other cars, other drivers and property of other people (including track owned property).
C3: No, organized speed events pertains to competitive events. We cover all HPDE, testing and member day driving for both our PD and Liability policy, the only thing excluded is competitive events.
G: The exclusion does not apply to any track waivers. The contract actually states "this exclusion does not apply to liability for damages: assumed by you or an “additional driver” in any waiver or disclaimer signed at a “scheduled track” as a pre*condition for being allowed to drive on that track.
In regards to the last question, our policy covers physical damage and bodily injury both. You would need to check with the PCA/SCCA on what exactly their policy covers for you in the instance of a loss.
Let us know if you have any further questions and please keep the feedback and any answers you get elsewhere coming!
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That helps, thanks...
Is the policy only in force during the coverage dates, or does it have a "tail"? For example. You get sued 3 years later for an accident that occurred. You had the policy only for that year, and the accident occurred within the policy dates...
Also, can you buy the policy the day of the event?
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Is the policy only in force during the coverage dates, or does it have a "tail"? For example. You get sued 3 years later for an accident that occurred. You had the policy only for that year, and the accident occurred within the policy dates...
Also, can you buy the policy the day of the event?
Bo
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That helps, thanks...
Is the policy only in force during the coverage dates, or does it have a "tail"? For example. You get sued 3 years later for an accident that occurred. You had the policy only for that year, and the accident occurred within the policy dates...
Also, can you buy the policy the day of the event?
Bo
Is the policy only in force during the coverage dates, or does it have a "tail"? For example. You get sued 3 years later for an accident that occurred. You had the policy only for that year, and the accident occurred within the policy dates...
Also, can you buy the policy the day of the event?
Bo
The policy is "occurrence" based meaning that it protects you in the event that the incident took place during the active policy period... regardless of when the claim is actually filed. So if the claim is filed a year or two or three after the accident, it will still cover you if the accident took place while coverage was in force.
And yes, you can purchase coverage the day of the event.
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Just curious you can be sued for liability while doing a track day? What about racing? I would think all liability goes out the window once you sign the release at the track. And just so you know i am not arguing this coverage just trying to educate myself.
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You can be sued for anything for any reason at any time.
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Hopefully your OpenTrack liability policy will prevent you from getting sued by paying for the damages in the event of a claim. Until now, your only option was to pay those damages out of pocket or run the risk of potentially being sued.
#24
So is this new open track "driver's" policy one more step to protect drivers with their own individual policy similar to a business owner's policy (previously unavailable to drivers) where the driver is still really protected as an additional insured under the open track policy?
A leasing business owner and Building owner co-insure. That is standard practice. Insurance companies make money off both parties insuring the same risk! Those insurance guys are smart and know how to make money.
I don't understand why there is no co-insurance between driver and organizer for the same risk on track? Seems like a missed chance for insurance co to make money. Perhaps this will become a new thing? I don't think that is a bad thing. As an individual I don't want to rely on the organizer. I'm happy to pay for my own policy.
#25
I just signed up for two days of coverage at this weekend’s BMW CCA HPDE at HPT. The website was very easy to navigate and the product allowed me to insure the car for it’s full value instead of there being a cap. Also it was cheaper than both Lockton and RLI/Haggerty.
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So to confirm, if one were to have a bad off at a track like WGI where damage costs pile up rapidly, this would cover that type of damage minus the deductible?
I think this is a good idea as I have been looking for a more comprehensive umbrella coverage to protect myself in these types of activities.
I think this is a good idea as I have been looking for a more comprehensive umbrella coverage to protect myself in these types of activities.
#27
I’m not certain I’m getting this right, but if there were a collision with another car, where both cars had passengers, and all involved are injured, this wotpuld help with medical expenses for everyone except the passenger of the insured’s car?
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So to confirm, if one were to have a bad off at a track like WGI where damage costs pile up rapidly, this would cover that type of damage minus the deductible?
I think this is a good idea as I have been looking for a more comprehensive umbrella coverage to protect myself in these types of activities.
I think this is a good idea as I have been looking for a more comprehensive umbrella coverage to protect myself in these types of activities.
my understanding is, if the sh$t hits the fans, pca and scca are SUPPOSED to cover you.
yet, with all the long term racers, and lawyers, on this forum... I have never seen this definitely documented...
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your umbrella is likely useless. If your primary insurance doesn't cover it, neither does your umbrella...
my understanding is, if the sh$t hits the fans, pca and scca are SUPPOSED to cover you.
yet, with all the long term racers, and lawyers, on this forum... I have never seen this definitely documented...
my understanding is, if the sh$t hits the fans, pca and scca are SUPPOSED to cover you.
yet, with all the long term racers, and lawyers, on this forum... I have never seen this definitely documented...
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We were meeting with a track today and they told the story of a recent single car crash where that caused $5K damage to track property. This policy would have triggered in that instance and paid the track if the driver had the Liability policy.