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Old 04-01-2018, 02:27 PM
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We all know that the less unsprung weight you have, the better your handling will be. The wheels and tires are probably the biggest contributors to this unsprung weight. My race class has minimum weights for the wheels, and the tire sizes are specified, so I can't really do much there. But, what about if instead of filling the tires with nitrogen, you fill them with helium? Helium is a noble gas so won't interact with the tire rubber. The helium will make the tires considerably lighter. The only thing I'm worried about is when I take them off. Will they float away? I might have to keep them in the trailer.

I'm also thinking about installing tanks of helium in the car. That way I can run a lighter car. Then after the race, I open a valve and let all the helium out, so I can make my minimum weight at the scales.
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Originally Posted by StoogeMoe
We all know that the less unsprung weight you have, the better your handling will be. The wheels and tires are probably the biggest contributors to this unsprung weight. My race class has minimum weights for the wheels, and the tire sizes are specified, so I can't really do much there. But, what about if instead of filling the tires with nitrogen, you fill them with helium? Helium is a noble gas so won't interact with the tire rubber. The helium will make the tires considerably lighter. The only thing I'm worried about is when I take them off. Will they float away? I might have to keep them in the trailer.

I'm also thinking about installing tanks of helium in the car. That way I can run a lighter car. Then after the race, I open a valve and let all the helium out, so I can make my minimum weight at the scales.
Maybe use those helium tanks with vents rear-ward for propulsion down the final straight of a race! that way, you get lighter, and accelerate faster before the finish!
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You may want to revisit your high school physics classes.
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Originally Posted by dan212
You may want to revisit your high school physics classes.
Tomorrow would be a good day for that...
Old 04-01-2018, 04:24 PM
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Nice try😀
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This was inspired from Colin Chapman's design philosophy of add lightness.
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Originally Posted by StoogeMoe
This was inspired from Colin Chapman's design philosophy of add lightness.
As in remove parts from the car until it breaks, then put the last one back

Gary
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It IS April Fools Day after all...
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I was worried this was turning into the 997 sub-forum for a minute.
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You are assuming the "air" in the tires rotates? I use PTAS or Porsche Tire Air Stabilizer. This rarely purchased option keeps the air in the tires from rotating with the wheel/tires thereby reducing rotating mass. This is good for at least a few seconds on your PB at your favorite track.
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I heard hydrogen is better than helium
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i calculate less than 100g per wheel savings (in fact 77g for a 295/30/18 wheel)
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Originally Posted by stownsen914
I heard hydrogen is better than helium
Especially in New Jersey
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Originally Posted by Veloce Raptor
Especially in New Jersey
Oh the humanity...
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Originally Posted by StoogeMoe
Oh the humanity...
Or, as they say in Florida, oh the huge manatee


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