Roebling death
04-02-2018 | 09:26 AM
#467
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From: Durham, NC and Virginia International Raceway
I Don't disagree with you.
But you missed the point.
The point is to have ADVANCE communication and a hard line drawn on the part of the ORGANIZERS.
As instructors, drawing a hard line is already something we are doing.
What I'm saying is organizers need to step up and convey the expectation along with what consequences people can expect if they don't comply.
It's a set up for both student and instructor when organizers have not made expectations and consequences clear in advance and are inconsistently enforcing them.
Of course I respect that you may never have made an error in judgment or felt bad about disappointing anyone or felt awkward at times, but most instructors will admit to feeling they often carry this burden alone.
The student thinks "oh my instructor isn't being fair to me" and feels resentful.
The instructor thinks "Gee I have to be the bad guy" but draws the line and spends the weekend dealing with a resentful student (although hopefully this gets better as the student improves over the course of the weekend.)
How is this fun for anyone?
I'm calling for the organizers to step up and edit some of their pre-event materials.
Its the right thing to do for their instructors, their students, safety, and will help their club's reputation.
But you missed the point.
The point is to have ADVANCE communication and a hard line drawn on the part of the ORGANIZERS.
As instructors, drawing a hard line is already something we are doing.
What I'm saying is organizers need to step up and convey the expectation along with what consequences people can expect if they don't comply.
It's a set up for both student and instructor when organizers have not made expectations and consequences clear in advance and are inconsistently enforcing them.
Of course I respect that you may never have made an error in judgment or felt bad about disappointing anyone or felt awkward at times, but most instructors will admit to feeling they often carry this burden alone.
The student thinks "oh my instructor isn't being fair to me" and feels resentful.
The instructor thinks "Gee I have to be the bad guy" but draws the line and spends the weekend dealing with a resentful student (although hopefully this gets better as the student improves over the course of the weekend.)
How is this fun for anyone?
I'm calling for the organizers to step up and edit some of their pre-event materials.
Its the right thing to do for their instructors, their students, safety, and will help their club's reputation.
04-02-2018 | 09:40 AM
#469
Drifting
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 2,943
Likes: 191
From: TX
I Don't disagree with you.
But you missed the point.
The point is to have ADVANCE communication and a hard line drawn on the part of the ORGANIZERS.
As instructors, drawing a hard line is already something we are doing.
What I'm saying is organizers need to step up and convey the expectation along with what consequences people can expect if they don't comply.
It's a set up for both student and instructor when organizers have not made expectations and consequences clear in advance and are inconsistently enforcing them.
Of course I respect that you may never have made an error in judgment or felt bad about disappointing anyone or felt awkward at times, but most instructors will admit to feeling they often carry this burden alone.
The student thinks "oh my instructor isn't being fair to me" and feels resentful.
The instructor thinks "Gee I have to be the bad guy" but draws the line and spends the weekend dealing with a resentful student (although hopefully this gets better as the student improves over the course of the weekend.)
How is this fun for anyone?
I'm calling for the organizers to step up and edit some of their pre-event materials.
Its the right thing to do for their instructors, their students, safety, and will help their club's reputation.
But you missed the point.
The point is to have ADVANCE communication and a hard line drawn on the part of the ORGANIZERS.
As instructors, drawing a hard line is already something we are doing.
What I'm saying is organizers need to step up and convey the expectation along with what consequences people can expect if they don't comply.
It's a set up for both student and instructor when organizers have not made expectations and consequences clear in advance and are inconsistently enforcing them.
Of course I respect that you may never have made an error in judgment or felt bad about disappointing anyone or felt awkward at times, but most instructors will admit to feeling they often carry this burden alone.
The student thinks "oh my instructor isn't being fair to me" and feels resentful.
The instructor thinks "Gee I have to be the bad guy" but draws the line and spends the weekend dealing with a resentful student (although hopefully this gets better as the student improves over the course of the weekend.)
How is this fun for anyone?
I'm calling for the organizers to step up and edit some of their pre-event materials.
Its the right thing to do for their instructors, their students, safety, and will help their club's reputation.
Carry on.
-Mike
04-02-2018 | 10:45 AM
#470
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Joined: May 2012
Posts: 13,416
Likes: 4,597
From: Mid-Atlantic (on land, not in the middle of the ocean)
Of course I respect that you may never have made an error in judgment or felt bad about disappointing anyone or felt awkward at times, but most instructors will admit to feeling they often carry this burden alone.
The student thinks "oh my instructor isn't being fair to me" and feels resentful.
The instructor thinks "Gee I have to be the bad guy" but draws the line and spends the weekend dealing with a resentful student (although hopefully this gets better as the student improves over the course of the weekend.)
How is this fun for anyone?
The student thinks "oh my instructor isn't being fair to me" and feels resentful.
The instructor thinks "Gee I have to be the bad guy" but draws the line and spends the weekend dealing with a resentful student (although hopefully this gets better as the student improves over the course of the weekend.)
How is this fun for anyone?