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Old 12-15-2013, 11:37 PM
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that can't be.
i guess if you exclude bay area?
top 2% here i would venture to guess over $5MM a year or maybe even $10MM? we have clients paying $1-3MM on income tax. i need a new job...
I don't think you understand how steep the inequality curve is. 1% is middle class. You're not "rich" until you're in the 0.1%.
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Old 12-16-2013, 10:03 PM
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The Carrera GT I believe is at bargain prices currently.

No other car can in this price range, can match its driving characteristics and its exotic construction. It's a piece of art!

The car after 10 years it still looks Cutting edge ,as if it roll off the assembly line today.

The next step up in exotic cars would have to be either that F40, F 50, Enzo's, F1.

These cars are in the million-dollar range currently, where you can now purchase a Carrera GT for $300 - $400,000, at half the price.

Now that's a bargain!
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Old 12-17-2013, 12:05 AM
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For me, the CGT is the step up!
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Old 12-17-2013, 03:00 AM
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I don't think you understand how steep the inequality curve is. 1% is middle class. You're not "rich" until you're in the 0.1%.


u are right!
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Old 12-17-2013, 04:25 AM
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I don't think you understand how steep the inequality curve is. 1% is middle class. You're not "rich" until you're in the 0.1%.
The current definition of rich is being worth $5M or more. And top 1% 'middle class'? Do you know the definition of 'middle'? That level qualifies as very rich at least. And the top 0.1% filthy rich. That inequality means the middle class is disappearing, not that the middle class is rich now. VERY different .
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Originally Posted by TJF View Post
The next step up in exotic cars would have to be either that F40, F 50, Enzo's, F1.

These cars are in the million-dollar range currently, where you can now purchase a Carrera GT for $300 - $400,000, at half the price.

Now that's a bargain!
The Ferrari's you referenced are currently experiencing an unnatural hike in list prices, and sale prices. Bubble territory. Many of us are watching from the sidelines.

The McLaren F1? Oof, went from trading hands at ~$3.5m two to three years ago, to over $8m recently.

I've ridden enough investment bubbles to get goosebumps right now.

But yes, I agree that the CGT is an incredibly special car, and it will remain timeless.
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Old 12-17-2013, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by elp_jc View Post
The current definition of rich is being worth $5M or more. And top 1% 'middle class'? Do you know the definition of 'middle'? That level qualifies as very rich at least. And the top 0.1% filthy rich. That inequality means the middle class is disappearing, not that the middle class is rich now. VERY different .
The 1% are definitely not "very rich". At 1% you might be able to swing a second house if you are stingy with your finances. It's merely comfortable, not rich. You can't retire early from your job or anything. You're one medical event from being wiped out.

It's obviously not mathematically middle but that's also obviously not the definition I mean because those guys (50%) are barely making ends meet, in fact they aren't quite.

Nobody with only $5MM in assets in the US considers themselves rich.
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Old 12-17-2013, 07:39 PM
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I can't imagine the Paul Walker wreck having any effect on CGT prices because most people don't even know what it is. I have a GT3 and I've had 10+ people ask me about Walker wrecking in 'my' car. Most people just hear "Porsche GT" and equate GT to any Porsche GT in the name.
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Old 12-18-2013, 03:50 AM
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Nobody with only $5MM in assets in the US considers themselves rich.
now aint that tru
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Originally Posted by TJF View Post
The Carrera GT I believe is at bargain prices currently.

No other car can in this price range, can match its driving characteristics and its exotic construction. It's a piece of art!

The car after 10 years it still looks Cutting edge ,as if it roll off the assembly line today.

The next step up in exotic cars would have to be either that F40, F 50, Enzo's, F1.

These cars are in the million-dollar range currently, where you can now purchase a Carrera GT for $300 - $400,000, at half the price.

Now that's a bargain!
couldnt agree more..
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Old 01-23-2014, 12:34 PM
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Prices have really heated up over the last 6 months. I know of a 05 that just sold for close to $600k and there are others out there priced in the mid to high $500s.

What are others seeing and hearing?
Whats the time frame for $1M?
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Old 01-23-2014, 03:17 PM
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I seen around $450k but never $500s or $600s.
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Originally Posted by JustinS View Post
Prices have really heated up over the last 6 months. I know of a 05 that just sold for close to $600k and there are others out there priced in the mid to high $500s.

What are others seeing and hearing?
Whats the time frame for $1M?
This is formally called an investment bubble.

And is why I'm sitting on the sidelines, watching.
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Old 01-23-2014, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by GreenLantern View Post
This is formally called an investment bubble.

And is why I'm sitting on the sidelines, watching.
Its just begun.
The CGT has been an undervalued car for way too long.
Buckle up!
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Its just begun.
The CGT has been an undervalued car for way too long.
Buckle up!
I agree it's been slightly devalued for a while, but it hasn't just begun. The supercar investment bubble started ~9 months ago, and has been growing dramatically.

I'm buckling up for the burst. Just as I have for the past couple recent investment bubbles. (No, I wasn't around for the tulip bubble. Thankfully.)
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