damaged white cgt
07-09-2014, 12:32 PM
#47
Drifting
This blog explains what happened:
http://www.financialsamurai.com/desi...-of-suffering/
07-09-2014, 12:51 PM
#49
Drifting
Right, but it's definitely the same car as the pictures you posted. Either the writer of the article got the statement wrong, or the owner didn't know the difference between pearl white and Grand Prix White.
07-09-2014, 01:12 PM
#51
Burning Brakes
I believe this car was sold by Manhattan Motorsports (35 Lumber Rd, Roslyn, NY 11576
(516) 625-2900) Dec of last year. You can reach out to the owner, Bobby for more info.
(516) 625-2900) Dec of last year. You can reach out to the owner, Bobby for more info.
07-09-2014, 01:13 PM
#52
Burning Brakes
I believe this car was sold by Manhattan Motorsports (35 Lumber Rd, Roslyn, NY 11576
(516) 625-2900) Dec of last year. You can reach out to the owner, Bobby for more info.
(516) 625-2900) Dec of last year. You can reach out to the owner, Bobby for more info.
07-09-2014, 08:46 PM
#53
I am very familiar with this car and the last owner. He drives all his cars(all porsches) and he has deep pockets and takes care of all his cars. That is him is the pic during gold rush, car is stunning in person, and yes bobby fixed this car, he does top notch work.
07-09-2014, 10:55 PM
#54
Drifting
I am sure it was stunning and once it gets re sprayed cosmetically and mechanically put back together it will be once again.
The guy traded it because he could and moved on - but that's not the point.
The dealer story vs reality should be shared - helping out one another that's what this and every other car forum is about.
I could be wrong but didn't the same dealer sell a 8900 mile silver CGT for 375 a few months back.
07-10-2014, 09:50 AM
#56
Drifting
Guessing 430 - 450k
Wonder if Porsche has a factory check list in order for a Porsche dealer to sell a CGT.
07-10-2014, 10:10 AM
#57
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Why would porsche care? It's a used car being sold without a warranty. PPI and buyer beware like any other purchase. Maybe it's been put together perfectly, but the story never leaves the chassis # and the new buyer should know it and price accordingly to what they are willing to accept. Maybe a buyer won't care, which is their prerogative, but a dealer, esp a porsche dealer should disclose in full from a reputation perspective. My 0.02.
07-10-2014, 11:09 AM
#58
Burning Brakes
Kind of amazes me that the dealer in question apparently glossed over the fact that this car incurred some significant damage at one time, and only grudgingly throws out pertinent information when asked directly.
There's not that many of these cars, and there's no way the dealer didn't know what happened, it would have shown up in their inspections even if the seller trading it in was mum. I'm in the camp that says a properly repaired car of this caliber can still be highly desirable (as a parable, read up on Rowan Atkinson's twice repaired McLaren F1), but it still amazes me that full disclosure isn't offered up front. Are there really potential CGT buyers who would buy one without knowing the full history of said car?
PS: I first went into this dealer to buy my 991 and left after a pretty unpleasant experience to shop elsewhere. They do seem to have a steady supply of desirable Porsche limited edition and small supply cars they're getting from somewhere.
There's not that many of these cars, and there's no way the dealer didn't know what happened, it would have shown up in their inspections even if the seller trading it in was mum. I'm in the camp that says a properly repaired car of this caliber can still be highly desirable (as a parable, read up on Rowan Atkinson's twice repaired McLaren F1), but it still amazes me that full disclosure isn't offered up front. Are there really potential CGT buyers who would buy one without knowing the full history of said car?
PS: I first went into this dealer to buy my 991 and left after a pretty unpleasant experience to shop elsewhere. They do seem to have a steady supply of desirable Porsche limited edition and small supply cars they're getting from somewhere.
07-10-2014, 12:06 PM
#59
Drifting
Why would porsche care? It's a used car being sold without a warranty. PPI and buyer beware like any other purchase. Maybe it's been put together perfectly, but the story never leaves the chassis # and the new buyer should know it and price accordingly to what they are willing to accept. Maybe a buyer won't care, which is their prerogative, but a dealer, esp a porsche dealer should disclose in full from a reputation perspective. My 0.02.
I have received more than a few items and brochures from my recent purchase of my 10 year old CGT so the question would be IMO why wouldn't they take full responsibility if a CGT is going thru their dealership.
The authorized CGT centers my guess have marching orders before a CGT leaves the shop and hits the showroom.
The dealer in Dallas spent 40k+ on the silver CGT.
07-12-2014, 07:27 AM
#60
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I'd like to believe that dealers are being held to that standard but I doubt it. If they were I would expect them to make noise with the involvement and/or what they need to do with a cgt before they list it for sale. Buyers would prefer to buy from the dealer versus private party. Dealers would earn a premium on the price and Porsche AG stamp of approval would serve as the best possible PPI.
With the exception of dealers asking for premium price, I doubt any of the above happens, though I do wish it did.
With the exception of dealers asking for premium price, I doubt any of the above happens, though I do wish it did.