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All I can say is you've never owned a CGT... Then again, I'm a little biased.
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Any of the tests that I found on the internet has the CGT significantly faster from 0-60, 0-100, 0-150, 0-200 than the RUF Turbo R.
The horsepower figures that you quote in your signature are also much higher than any of the cars that have ever been tested by RUF or any of the magazines so maybe you have done additional things to produce more horsepower.
I also never called your RUF "lowly" I just put exactly the same quote that you used and changed RUF to CGT. I have a lot of respect for RUF and they do a great job of modifying Porsche's. I can't comment on their new car as I haven't seen or driven one. My guess is they will produce a very nice car, but I have my doubts as to whether they will be able to create an entire car that is as nice as the CGT in all respects. It certainly will be much more exclusive and to some that is one of the most important things.
#36
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You must have a faster RUF Turbo R than any of the magazines tested or the driver of the CGT wasn't trying or not very adept at driving.
Can you please describe the above? Thanks.
I love the CGT, but RUF is a different kind of thing. Perhaps it is the exclusivity. In my case, I've driven turbo 993's and they seem to stand still when compared to my car.
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I love RUF and the history that they have. But these last things and the cost is beyond my understanding. I love the 993 version of the RUF turbos. But it looks like to me that you get a 20% increase in performance for a 35-40% increase in price and some questionable styling. Given the last RUF I have seen in person was the 996 GT3 version. It has some wild interior styling. The 997 GT3 version was a wild green color with some strange green piping and interior accents. It was a photo car so I dont know if they all go out of the factory that loud but they make Lambo look conservative.
And like LTC says regardless of what your objective is, it has a strong resemblance to a Cayman. So you have to be completely in step with the performance to accept that. Do you want to pay $400K or more for a car that looks like Porsches entry level offering?
Its not a insult to RUF owners its just what goes through a normal Porsche fan's mind when looking at this car. Seems like alot of Porsche fans think that way as evidenced by these posts.
Regardless I still want a 993 TT that I can send to RUF for a full conversion. That would be my Dream 911 right now. A ruby or arena red.
And like LTC says regardless of what your objective is, it has a strong resemblance to a Cayman. So you have to be completely in step with the performance to accept that. Do you want to pay $400K or more for a car that looks like Porsches entry level offering?
Its not a insult to RUF owners its just what goes through a normal Porsche fan's mind when looking at this car. Seems like alot of Porsche fans think that way as evidenced by these posts.
Regardless I still want a 993 TT that I can send to RUF for a full conversion. That would be my Dream 911 right now. A ruby or arena red.
#38
the ctr3 walks all over the cgt,in fact the Rt12 walks all over the cgt,the Rt12 can't keep up with the ctr3 as i found out on a very wet track last Sunday(the Rt12 was a 4wd,the ctr3 is a rwd)
As for the Cayman styling,that's a obviuosly personal but i find that once seen in reality,all comparisons vanish....
You guys will probably not get a chance to see one quite soon so wait till the magazine arcticles and photos soon
BTW,price is North of $600k exc taxes per current xchange rate
As for the Cayman styling,that's a obviuosly personal but i find that once seen in reality,all comparisons vanish....
You guys will probably not get a chance to see one quite soon so wait till the magazine arcticles and photos soon
BTW,price is North of $600k exc taxes per current xchange rate
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My guess is you would find the CGT is worth closer to its original MSRP than the RUF will be in three years.
In ten years I will bet the CGT is worth substantially more than the RUF, not even taking into account that it sold for substantially less originally.
If you are happy paying over 600K for your new RUF then have fun, but trying to justify it in a CGT forum doesn't seem to make much sense.
In ten years I will bet the CGT is worth substantially more than the RUF, not even taking into account that it sold for substantially less originally.
If you are happy paying over 600K for your new RUF then have fun, but trying to justify it in a CGT forum doesn't seem to make much sense.
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My guess is you would find the CGT is worth closer to its original MSRP than the RUF will be in three years.
In ten years I will bet the CGT is worth substantially more than the RUF, not even taking into account that it sold for substantially less originally.
If you are happy paying over 600K for your new RUF then have fun, but trying to justify it in a CGT forum doesn't seem to make much sense.
In ten years I will bet the CGT is worth substantially more than the RUF, not even taking into account that it sold for substantially less originally.
If you are happy paying over 600K for your new RUF then have fun, but trying to justify it in a CGT forum doesn't seem to make much sense.
i have just sold a year old Ruf Rt12 at my purchase price
i can't sell the cgt even at purchase -35% !
As for having fun,i do, thx,even more than i thought i would
BTW,i haven't started this thread,someone posted pics of my car inhere....
what can't be justified IMO is the current miserable price level of the cgt,maybe you can justify that....
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with all due respect (?) your guess with regard to what the future will look like does not hold much value at present,what is valid are the following facts:
i have just sold a year old Ruf Rt12 at my purchase price
i can't sell the cgt even at purchase -35% !
As for having fun,i do, thx,even more than i thought i would
BTW,i haven't started this thread,someone posted pics of my car inhere....
what can't be justified IMO is the current miserable price level of the cgt,maybe you can justify that....
i have just sold a year old Ruf Rt12 at my purchase price
i can't sell the cgt even at purchase -35% !
As for having fun,i do, thx,even more than i thought i would
BTW,i haven't started this thread,someone posted pics of my car inhere....
what can't be justified IMO is the current miserable price level of the cgt,maybe you can justify that....
The car stickered for $448,000 so I will buy the car today for $291,000
Please tell me where to send the money as I am ready to execute this transaction immediately.
#44
Well I will tell you what I will do, I will purchase your CGT for 65% of its original MSRP as long as it hasn't been in any accidents and is in good condition.
The car stickered for $448,000 so I will buy the car today for $291,000
Please tell me where to send the money as I am ready to execute this transaction immediately.
The car stickered for $448,000 so I will buy the car today for $291,000
Please tell me where to send the money as I am ready to execute this transaction immediately.
the car was EUR.440k so you need EUR.286k,i'd say it's like US$.407k?
smart guy,BTW,no accidents,only sunny driving and not tracked,if you are serious you can PM me
#45
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I love RUF and the history that they have. But these last things and the cost is beyond my understanding. I love the 993 version of the RUF turbos. But it looks like to me that you get a 20% increase in performance for a 35-40% increase in price and some questionable styling. Given the last RUF I have seen in person was the 996 GT3 version. It has some wild interior styling. The 997 GT3 version was a wild green color with some strange green piping and interior accents. It was a photo car so I dont know if they all go out of the factory that loud but they make Lambo look conservative.
And like LTC says regardless of what your objective is, it has a strong resemblance to a Cayman. So you have to be completely in step with the performance to accept that. Do you want to pay $400K or more for a car that looks like Porsches entry level offering?
Its not a insult to RUF owners its just what goes through a normal Porsche fan's mind when looking at this car. Seems like alot of Porsche fans think that way as evidenced by these posts.
Regardless I still want a 993 TT that I can send to RUF for a full conversion. That would be my Dream 911 right now. A ruby or arena red.
And like LTC says regardless of what your objective is, it has a strong resemblance to a Cayman. So you have to be completely in step with the performance to accept that. Do you want to pay $400K or more for a car that looks like Porsches entry level offering?
Its not a insult to RUF owners its just what goes through a normal Porsche fan's mind when looking at this car. Seems like alot of Porsche fans think that way as evidenced by these posts.
Regardless I still want a 993 TT that I can send to RUF for a full conversion. That would be my Dream 911 right now. A ruby or arena red.