tragic enzo crash
08-03-2006, 09:21 PM
#17
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from poster omgjon on f-chat:
From the horses mouth - Richard was going close to 200mph, and hit a bump in
the road that sent him airborne. The car rolled 7 times and was flat as a
pancake. Fortunetly he was wearing a helmet. He has cracked vertebrae in his
neck and back, 4 broken ribs, broken sternum, some broken fingers, and the
only surgery he made need is on his thumb. Nothing life threatening. He is
refusing pain medication because he thinks he needs to be punished!
From the horses mouth - Richard was going close to 200mph, and hit a bump in
the road that sent him airborne. The car rolled 7 times and was flat as a
pancake. Fortunetly he was wearing a helmet. He has cracked vertebrae in his
neck and back, 4 broken ribs, broken sternum, some broken fingers, and the
only surgery he made need is on his thumb. Nothing life threatening. He is
refusing pain medication because he thinks he needs to be punished!
08-11-2006, 02:30 AM
#20
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Craziness! Sounds like these cars need more downforce to handle bumps in the road (or their drivers need more info on where the dips are before driving that fast). I wonder if these unfortunate events looked anything like that Mercedes that flipped end-over-end at Le Mans several years back. If I owned one and drove like that I'd think twice about possible dips in the road with two major wrecks in these cars.
08-11-2006, 10:21 AM
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Top speed runs on open roads are much more dangerous than race tracks. The open road is more crowned, rougher, has debris, surface irregularities, lined with trees, has unpredictable wind patterns, but most of all does not lend itself to multiple reconaissance laps in which the speed is built in increments.
On a super-oval, you can find all the potential problem areas driving 50 mph slower, then work up to the highest speed.
Last-but-not-least, race cars that can hit these speeds have huge wings with more downforce. Air management at super-high speeds is very tricky. Look at all the aero changes in the Veyron that must occur for the car to reach top speed.
Still, the horrific Enzo crashes have more surviviors. I wonder if there is a difference in the passenger shell. AS
On a super-oval, you can find all the potential problem areas driving 50 mph slower, then work up to the highest speed.
Last-but-not-least, race cars that can hit these speeds have huge wings with more downforce. Air management at super-high speeds is very tricky. Look at all the aero changes in the Veyron that must occur for the car to reach top speed.
Still, the horrific Enzo crashes have more surviviors. I wonder if there is a difference in the passenger shell. AS
08-11-2006, 11:14 AM
#22
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Originally Posted by Alexander Stemer
Still, the horrific Enzo crashes have more surviviors.
jeff
08-11-2006, 11:15 AM
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We drove the closed Road Section one Car ahead of the Enzo in an RUF RT12 (206mph)
the Road for the most Part was unsafe to drive at those Speeds, especially the early Part, thats where he crashed
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the Road for the most Part was unsafe to drive at those Speeds, especially the early Part, thats where he crashed
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08-11-2006, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Alexander Stemer
Top speed runs on open roads are much more dangerous than race tracks. The open road is more crowned, rougher, has debris, surface irregularities, lined with trees, has unpredictable wind patterns, but most of all does not lend itself to multiple reconaissance laps in which the speed is built in increments.
It's been a rough few weeks for us speed junkies. This Enzo and DeMatta at Road America.
08-11-2006, 07:30 PM
#28
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Originally Posted by Alexander Stemer
Hey Jeff,
More survivors than the CGT horrific crashes. (Please, no flaming) AS
More survivors than the CGT horrific crashes. (Please, no flaming) AS
not fair to make that statement w/o statistics to back it up!
-how many cgt accidents vs. enzo accidents
-how many cgt fatalities vs. enzo fatalities
an enzo hitting a concrete barrier head on at speeds over 100 mph wouldn't
make a difference in the survival of the occupants vs. a cgt.
if you don't know the statistics then your post is an unsubstantiated flame of the cgt!
not flaming!
jeff
08-11-2006, 07:32 PM
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For those interested in open road racing I recommend www.openroadracing.com, the safest way to go fast on roads. Very high safety standard on these events (check out the rules).
08-11-2006, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by sweanders
For those interested in open road racing I recommend www.openroadracing.com, the safest way to go fast on roads. Very high safety standard on these events (check out the rules).
didn't even know they had such a thing.
jeff