SSTHO

I am not a Ferrari fan, but I've aways been smitten with the F430 Spider in 6-speed manual. Old friend and I swapped keys this early AM.

Most people think the manual F430 is overly hyped at over 2x the price of an F1 transmission car. However, most haven't driven a manual F430 either. I've driven both and I get it. I standby my opinion that the F430 spider in 6-speed manual is the closest driving experience to a CGT at fractions of the price for many similar experiences:

- 6speed manual w/light-weight flywheel for fast falling revs
- great throttle response from phenomenal NA engines
- mid-2000 feel with timeless looks
- neither feel slow even for today's 2022 standards; neither needs more power
- the sound track,... the F430 Spyder is so viceral for stock; even back to back with CGT
- CGT with Ohlin TTXs now handles great; love it more with each drive! F430 felt a bit dated in comparison, lower limits, but still mega fun - stock for stock is much closer

Sure, the F430 spider manual is a very expensive car, but if you are looking for a cheap CGT experience, an F430 spider in 6-speed manual is for you.

IMHO: CGT >> F430 spider 6-speed >>> 430 Scud >> F430 F1 coupe
Some pics. My friend also didn't stall the CGT on his first try and then put on 50 miles without stalling either.

Jrtaylor9

I agree it's a really fun drive. My only complaint is top up looks. Top down damn good looking. Top up looks like a bad hair piece imo

Sounds amazing. Good feel. Revs amazingly.

bubba928

NIce comments. I love both cars and that's the closest I'll ever get to owning either one.

JS

I always found the 430 to be ugly, the Scuderia is a big improvement on the design but you have to like the F1 box.

E-Man

I've owned 3 F-430's, 2 of them were Scuds and had multiple CGT's over the last 10 years. Never once did I think the F430 reminded me of a CGT. We all have differing opinions and that's what makes the forum great

Jrtaylor9

Scud for sure not. Although Scud my fav Ferrari i ever owned. On track felt like a go cart with f v8 behind head. Tons of feel. Superfast2 single clutch kick. I was a huge 997 rs fan on track but pure fun on track in street car i might rank scud as my fav. Flame suit on Porsche forum.

Manual spider; i sorta get the baby cgt comparison. But nothing really compares.

SSTHO

I agree CGT vs F430 F1 and scud. F430 manual with LWFW / NA / free revving engine reminded me of CGT. Maybe better way to put it is that I understand why the value of manual F430s are multiple times of same car with F1 transmission. 🙂

SSTHO

765LT destroys all. I grab the keys to this drug most days. If you haven't, you should try.

Manual F430 is fractions of CGT. Yes, nothing truly compares! 🙂

AS

I own a CGT & 2 manual F430s. They're different...

rickyn f355

where wld you place the gated scud?

E-Man

Ferrari never made a 'gated scud'.

rickyn f355

I know

E-Man

You know what? that Ferrari never made a Scud with a manual transmission? You've posted a pic of what looks like a Scud with a stick. Doesn't mean it left the factory this way because all Scuderias were F-1 transmissions. I know someone converted a Challenge stradale to a manual, so if I had to guess as to your picture I'd say the same thing happened here, someone converted a paddle shift to a manual box after it left Ferrari. Do you know something different? Is this your car in the photo?

rickyn f355

Yes it’s mine. It is another level In gated form.

raclaims

Lot of guys have been doing manual conversions...dealer even offered to do one for me...