SDGT3

I took mine out and never looked back. Much cooler and fresh air aids the feeling of getting sick. I have widow nets on both sides and I also believe the noise level is less with the windows open than with them in. Personal preference again but only issue is in a down pour.

Steve113

180 ???? that's insane... hot enough to cook your lungs

stujelly

Agreed, love to see pic

tkerrmd

ok I live in Tampa and mostly always hot in car
mine came with passenger window in and none on driver side

I have run it like this and all is fine so guess I am in the middle?!

Heinlein Racing

Your best bet is removing the window and install fasteners to put it back in. It will give you the option of running without the window on hot days, or in a DE situation and you can install it again for travel, rain, qualify or any other situation where you might want it in. Running no window, you should consider a window net. (So far nobody talked about the most important job of your side window) Remember that window is there for your safety as well!! Not just aero! It will keep your arms inside and parts/debris out! Much more important then wind noise...
You can also install NACA ducts in your quarter windows for air flow if that's your goal.

modifier

Good points. I already told my mechanic to give me a price to remove and clean them up. I'll probably have to figure out the fasteners for the temp install myself. Any advice on that? I hate to drill holes in the frame for Zeus fasteners but that might be the only way. Small ones maybe.

Window net is likely a must. I see a lot of guys run a mid ship triangular net too. Who makes the best of both?

Phokaioglaukos

Had an interesting conversation with a scrut at Summit Point this weekend. OEM side windows are bonded to the door. My windows appear to be non-OEM and screws into the door. PCA rules say one must have a window net but that cups may keep their OEM windows instead. I interpret that to be PCA's recognition that if it's good enough for Porsche it's good enough for PCA.

BUT, if the windows are not OEM then the exemption from the window net rule does not apply, scut asserts. Safety issue. Not sure I agree with the safety point, but I need to install a window net.

Who can point me to a model window net that will be easy to install before Monticello in less than two weeks?

aspenripper

I will be home later and can show you my setup. Can be done for under a 100$. Windows out are way better in my opinion. I can snap some pics and get them to you.
Ed

Phokaioglaukos

Thanks, Ed. The best approach I've found thus far is the Schroth kit:

analogmike

I HATE those seatbelt-buckle mounts, you will put a hole in your skull if you get in or our with no helmet.

aspenripper

That kit is nice but anything with hose clamps holding any part of window netting is generally not allowed. Nice because no welding but obviously not very strong. I have no idea if they are PCA legal. SCCA club and pro they are a no go.
Ed

John@DSM

Got 9 staples in my skull at Summit Point last year from my old buckle mount....
We have found the Race Quip spring loaded window net bars to be the best. Very small tabs to hit and the spring loading makes it easy to install. We use an aircraft cable and clear tubing around the door bars.

As for windows, sometimes with, sometimes without. Heat is a big issue, but if it's raining........

Phokaioglaukos

PCA says: "The method of attachment can be brackets bolted around the upper window frame. The use of plastic tie raps, straps or elastic cords is not allowed."

As you note, SCCA is clear on the point: "Nets shall be attached to the roll cage; plastic buckles, cable ties, hose clamps, and elastic cords are not permitted. Holes in the roll cage to accommodate either support rod are unacceptable unless bushed and welded completely."

Looks like PCA says hose clamps are ok.

Phokaioglaukos

Please explain more how you mount. Do you weld those tabs to the roll bar?

John@DSM

Yes tabs are welded to cage on top, but they are small flanges with like a 5/8" hole.