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Old 11-15-2013 | 10:07 AM
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Finally time to say goodbye to the stock Sachs on my '05 Cup. Considering JRZ vs. Moton as well as 3 vs. 2-way. What are folk’s experience with the different makes and styles?
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Personally I would just rebuild the Sachs. 3 Ways takes you out of PCA GTC3 and devalues the car.
JRZ are good

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Old 11-15-2013 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by fstockcarrera
Personally I would just rebuild the Sachs. 3 Ways takes you out of PCA GTC3 and devalues the car.
JRZ are good

IMO

thanks Scott I didn't know that

BTW how much of an upgrade lap time wise are a set of JRZ vs stock Cup
Old 11-15-2013 | 11:29 AM
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zero. for me It's the driver. I heard that sachs and JRZ'z are equivalent. In a 6cup, changing equipment except tires is not going to make a big difference if any, again for me. But I have been wrong before.
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That said, no (winning) pro teams were running Sachs when the rules allowed them to change that I am aware of.

Christian, I have a brand new set of JRZ 2 way pro shocks, springs, helpers that I just got as part of a deal. They may be spoken for with one of my group here in Cleveland, but if he passes, I can let you know.

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zero. for me It's the driver. I heard that sachs and JRZ'z are equivalent. In a 6cup, changing equipment except tires is not going to make a big difference if any, again for me. But I have been wrong before.
thanks and why I went from GT-1 do anything you want to the 1000 hp car to 996 Cup. I am staying factory and working on getting faster by driving better
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That said, no (winning) pro teams were running Sachs when the rules allowed them to change that I am aware of.
Yep. I can hold my own in a 6cup but the shock brand not tuning ( that's much different) will not likely significantly change my times.
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Sachs 996 shocks are great and so easy to set, everyone knows how to set them. We used them on a lot of 997 cups when they came out. High end shocks to me are not worth it if you are not racing for money with a full time engineer to work on them.
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Originally Posted by analogmike
Sachs 996 shocks are great and so easy to set, everyone knows how to set them. We used them on a lot of 997 cups when they came out. High end shocks to me are not worth it if you are not racing for money with a full time engineer to work on them.

I will admit that is why I am sticking for now with a 996 Cup, back to factory settings and basics and focus on race craft not what can I upgrade on my car
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You can also have the JRZ 3-ways converted to 2-ways to stay legal in C3.
I too need to get out of the Sachs. Mine are so old I am having to rebuild them 2 times a year due to leaks, bent shafts, bushings that are longer available, etc.
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If they are rebuilt right, they shouldn't die that quick. If you are bending shafts and killing bushings with regular use, you are doing something wrong.
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they were really wrecked when I bought the car. And, even through several rebuilds, they have never been 100% right, always a leak, play, etc. The non availability of the parts is my biggest issue though.
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I'm also a fan of the Sachs ( and JRZ) I find them to be the most reliable of all the brands mentioned

Scott who's doing your rebuilds? I've not had any of those issue's and have 8 cups currently
running Sachs that we service regularly with David Glen at Ocean Shore MS. I've also had great results from Dean Dodge at Sachs
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Thanks Dan.
We will send them out for rebuild then.
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If you're not running GTC3, then I have a complete set of Sachs 3-way fronts, 2-way rears rebuilt by Dean Dodge @ Sachs. Fronts are fresh in the box, rears were used for 1 weekend while my Clubsports were being rebuilt. They were OEM from a friend's 03' RSR.
$2,500 + shipping....



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