Engine pre-heater
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Hi all,
These days, I fancy buying a pre heater for my cup (and the R), in order to preserve the engine from being run cold. It is a water pump with an external water heater. What do you, guys, think of this ? Gadget or must have for a race engine ?
I am thinking about this : http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/motors...e-pre-heater-2
Thanks in advance
Cedric
These days, I fancy buying a pre heater for my cup (and the R), in order to preserve the engine from being run cold. It is a water pump with an external water heater. What do you, guys, think of this ? Gadget or must have for a race engine ?
I am thinking about this : http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/motors...e-pre-heater-2
Thanks in advance
Cedric
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It would not work here in the states unless you have 3-phases power and a high amperage connection but being in Europe that is not a problem. The issue with cold starts are oil starvation. I would assume that the motor guru's will chime in but if you heat the block via water temperature you will expand the case of the block. It will take a while to transfer heat into the pistons and oil sitting in the motor. The large quantity oil in the reservoir will not be effected.
Might be a cool toy but not sure how effective.
Good luck
Might be a cool toy but not sure how effective.
Good luck
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It would not work here in the states unless you have 3-phases power and a high amperage connection but being in Europe that is not a problem. The issue with cold starts are oil starvation. I would assume that the motor guru's will chime in but if you heat the block via water temperature you will expand the case of the block. It will take a while to transfer heat into the pistons and oil sitting in the motor. The large quantity oil in the reservoir will not be effected.
Might be a cool toy but not sure how effective.
Good luck
Might be a cool toy but not sure how effective.
Good luck
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Well my understanding is that the wear on startup is due to a lack of oil due to the higher viscosity of cold oil and the time it takes to reach the wear parts. Heating the oil would help and having a warm engine would decrease the idling time to warm it up. The problems I see with the cup engines is that most of the oil is in the dry sump tank and wouldn't get heated by a water heater. Also the wear at idle is insignificant compared to the wear at high RPMs. IMHO the biggest advantage with less idling time is less time on the hour meter and the best way to reduce the wear on the engine would be to pressurize the oil prior to startup with something like an accusump.
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Well my understanding is that the wear on startup is due to a lack of oil due to the higher viscosity of cold oil and the time it takes to reach the wear parts. Heating the oil would help and having a warm engine would decrease the idling time to warm it up. The problems I see with the cup engines is that most of the oil is in the dry sump tank and wouldn't get heated by a water heater. Also the wear at idle is insignificant compared to the wear at high RPMs. IMHO the biggest advantage with less idling time is less time on the hour meter and the best way to reduce the wear on the engine would be to pressurize the oil prior to startup with something like an accusump.
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