Up/Backdating the 01 Cup Air intake
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Thanks Mike. Your thread was very useful. Are you thinking of 2 holing your 6-3 airbox? Will that Kydex hold up to the heat?
Marc - just tested on a 'normal' GT3 with cup decklid - fit is perfect ie no need to change anything
The lifting required on my 01 cup was because the airbox fittings/seating weren't in the engine bay originally.
Marc - just tested on a 'normal' GT3 with cup decklid - fit is perfect ie no need to change anything
The lifting required on my 01 cup was because the airbox fittings/seating weren't in the engine bay originally.
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Matt, I'm using that Kydex on the Datsun in the engine bay in several areas. Airflow is sealed mostly and the bay gets very hot, the Kydex hasn't lost shape at all. Once it's heated the first time, it holds its shape.
I'm thinking that when I get around to doing the box mod on the 6-3, I'll do a direct ram air box with twin snorkels. I have it in my mind, but not on paper yet.
Mike
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I'm thinking that when I get around to doing the box mod on the 6-3, I'll do a direct ram air box with twin snorkels. I have it in my mind, but not on paper yet.
Mike
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Hey Mike - sounds good! Thinking the KyDex - hard to get here but used by guys who make knife and gun holsters
- might be quite a neat/less messy way to make moulds for CF and FBG pieces. Have you seen that?
and yes it seems it should withstand the heat of the engine bay...
PROPERTY TEST METHOD TYPICAL VALUE1
Specific Gravity ASTM D-792 1.35
Tensile Strength, psi font> ASTM D-638 6,100 (42)
Elongation at Break, % 160
Flexural Strength, psi (MPa) ASTM D-790 9,300 (64)
Modulus of Elasticity, psi (MPa) 335,000 (2310)
Rockwell Hardness, R ASTM D-785 94
Notched Izod Impact Resistance, 73°F (23°C),ft-lbs/in (J/m) ASTM D-256 18 (953)
Taber Abrasion Resistance ASTM D-1044 0.038%
Heat Deflection Temperature, HDT, @264psi (1.8MPa), annealed,°F (°C) ASTM D-648 173° (78°)
Flammability2 Underwriter's Lab. UL Standard 94 V-0, 5V
Forming Temperature 325° - 390°F (162° - 200°C)
1All values based on 0.125" (3.12mm) sheet unless otherwise specified.
2All gauges from 0.028" (.71mm) and greater.Not intended for specification purposes.
- might be quite a neat/less messy way to make moulds for CF and FBG pieces. Have you seen that?
and yes it seems it should withstand the heat of the engine bay...
PROPERTY TEST METHOD TYPICAL VALUE1
Specific Gravity ASTM D-792 1.35
Tensile Strength, psi font> ASTM D-638 6,100 (42)
Elongation at Break, % 160
Flexural Strength, psi (MPa) ASTM D-790 9,300 (64)
Modulus of Elasticity, psi (MPa) 335,000 (2310)
Rockwell Hardness, R ASTM D-785 94
Notched Izod Impact Resistance, 73°F (23°C),ft-lbs/in (J/m) ASTM D-256 18 (953)
Taber Abrasion Resistance ASTM D-1044 0.038%
Heat Deflection Temperature, HDT, @264psi (1.8MPa), annealed,°F (°C) ASTM D-648 173° (78°)
Flammability2 Underwriter's Lab. UL Standard 94 V-0, 5V
Forming Temperature 325° - 390°F (162° - 200°C)
1All values based on 0.125" (3.12mm) sheet unless otherwise specified.
2All gauges from 0.028" (.71mm) and greater.Not intended for specification purposes.
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I've seen that video clip. Not tried that myself, but it would easily serve the purpose. I personally love the stuff... It's soooo versatile.
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Mark - I do have a mold for the 'under-scoop' and its likely good for 5-6 more of those units.
Get me the orders/commitments and addresses I'll confirm the cost inc shipping ie $230-250 range I think.
That also includes fitting the 997/cup style double scoop to top of decklid - happy to trade one of my under-scoops for one of those 'overs.'
Hope that works for you and the other 'early cup decklidders'
Matt
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Get me the orders/commitments and addresses I'll confirm the cost inc shipping ie $230-250 range I think.
That also includes fitting the 997/cup style double scoop to top of decklid - happy to trade one of my under-scoops for one of those 'overs.'
Hope that works for you and the other 'early cup decklidders'
Matt
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i will start the process of modifying my top scoop to fit the cup Decklid. the problem i see with making more then one with the top Scoop would be the fit to the decklid, there so many companies that makes them. Original, Getty, Shaw to name some and they are not born all equal....
The product used for underscoop has a flex to it and can be adapted the the shape variation but the top scoop are CF or FBG so no flex there...
I will start from a 996 Rs scoop from my original decklid.
i would love to get my hand on a 997 pair of scoop
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thanks Mark - mail replied - thanks for the list - seems $350 for the top ram air scoops is min (for FG not CF).
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Anyone ever ordered one from 911UK? will check with Stevo, Dan, UK board too.
I've read the FVD one disappointed a few folks before and Getty seemed to conversely hit the nail.
Found the 'two hump' 997 ones on HK site (rezvosport) but expensive and unsure re fit.
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Anyone ever ordered one from 911UK? will check with Stevo, Dan, UK board too.
I've read the FVD one disappointed a few folks before and Getty seemed to conversely hit the nail.
Found the 'two hump' 997 ones on HK site (rezvosport) but expensive and unsure re fit.
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Pretty sure that my scoop originally came from Rezvosport. Boinkus ordered it for his cup decklid, but they sent him the CF one for the street by mistake, so he sold it to me. I was very impressed by the fit on my decklid. I was not expecting this good a quality.
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Confirming that the scoop was originally ordered from Revosport and that the fit on the street 3 decklid was very good. Unfortunately I had ordered it for a Cup decklid.
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that looks awesome - sorry I missed it but the 996 airbox was second hand and reasonable.
Sending a package to Montreal next week with an under-lid ram air scoop as above in post 1
- anyone want to join and save on postage? tomorrow is deadline. thanks
Sending a package to Montreal next week with an under-lid ram air scoop as above in post 1
- anyone want to join and save on postage? tomorrow is deadline. thanks
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yes I heard thanks Franc! Jelli will love you even more for it ![Big Grin](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
But the price delta must be quite big, especially if you're already sporting a 996 MkI or cup lid?
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But the price delta must be quite big, especially if you're already sporting a 996 MkI or cup lid?
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Matt, I still have the stock lid, not a cup, so would have to buy a lid regardless. Given a choice, I would rather get this hybrid solution, since it should be a direct fit with full functionality for the street components, and allow mounting of a cup wing. So no price delta for me.
Rod, Getty Design makes one of these lids, as does Cargraphic (or is it FVD?). Getting mine from a shop in Quebec City called Sublime http://www.sublimeauto.ca/ It will use stock hinges, latch, and allow to keep the engine bay fan.
Rod, Getty Design makes one of these lids, as does Cargraphic (or is it FVD?). Getting mine from a shop in Quebec City called Sublime http://www.sublimeauto.ca/ It will use stock hinges, latch, and allow to keep the engine bay fan.