what is an appx 996 cup car annual budget?
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I was thinking from around 4k (a track that is only 40 min to 3.5 hrs away)-7k per DE depending on consumable needs...not including any scheduled maintenance. Im allotting another 15-25k boot at the end of every season as well.
I dont know about racing as honestly, Im not planning to run this thing in one (would rather rent at that cost lol).
When I raced the 996tt I had...that was an easy 10k a weekend btw...and that wasnt a cup lol.
I dont know about racing as honestly, Im not planning to run this thing in one (would rather rent at that cost lol).
When I raced the 996tt I had...that was an easy 10k a weekend btw...and that wasnt a cup lol.
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ya, but I have the garage prep, trailer and service the car at the track as well. Its definitely not inexpensive. Remember, tires alone per event are a good 1600-1900 (or x2 if you think you are running something like group 52 and can go through more) of that expense and you have to pay for the mechanics hotel room, gas etc. So around 2-4k is the car maintenance. Plus, if you want data analysis etc, that can cost extra.
fwiw, my gt3 (normal) was still around 2-3k all said and done per event given the consumables...so its not much more than that unless you money shift lol.
fwiw, my gt3 (normal) was still around 2-3k all said and done per event given the consumables...so its not much more than that unless you money shift lol.
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ya, but I have the garage prep, trailer and service the car at the track as well. Its definitely not inexpensive. Remember, tires alone per event are a good 1600-1900 (or x2 if you think you are running something like group 52 and can go through more) of that expense and you have to pay for the mechanics hotel room, gas etc. So around 2-4k is the car maintenance. Plus, if you want data analysis etc, that can cost extra.
fwiw, my gt3 (normal) was still around 2-3k all said and done per event given the consumables...so its not much more than that unless you money shift lol.
fwiw, my gt3 (normal) was still around 2-3k all said and done per event given the consumables...so its not much more than that unless you money shift lol.
These are rather large numbers being thrown about and BIG percentage of them are costs not directly related to a cup car. On site mechanics, hotels, data analysis, etc are going to cost the same for any car. To a large extent, tires will cost the same for any car as well (given similar weight, hp and tire size).
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I said it earlier and I'll say it again...
These are rather large numbers being thrown about and BIG percentage of them are costs not directly related to a cup car. On site mechanics, hotels, data analysis, etc are going to cost the same for any car. To a large extent, tires will cost the same for any car as well (given similar weight, hp and tire size).
These are rather large numbers being thrown about and BIG percentage of them are costs not directly related to a cup car. On site mechanics, hotels, data analysis, etc are going to cost the same for any car. To a large extent, tires will cost the same for any car as well (given similar weight, hp and tire size).
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I said it earlier and I'll say it again...
These are rather large numbers being thrown about and BIG percentage of them are costs not directly related to a cup car. On site mechanics, hotels, data analysis, etc are going to cost the same for any car. To a large extent, tires will cost the same for any car as well (given similar weight, hp and tire size).
These are rather large numbers being thrown about and BIG percentage of them are costs not directly related to a cup car. On site mechanics, hotels, data analysis, etc are going to cost the same for any car. To a large extent, tires will cost the same for any car as well (given similar weight, hp and tire size).
If you're anywhere near a shop or individual running the IMSA Patron Cup series, you've just found yourself a great source of Yokohama take offs whcih are great for practice and even races depending on their previous use. We buy them here for $400-500 per set, with never more than 2-3 HC's and they last a whole lot longer than that....
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I ran my 03' cup for 4 years (100+ hours) and never experienced the kind of numbers being thrown around here. My experience is shared with my fellow 6-cup drivers here out West. IMHO 6-cups are cheap to run unless you have trackside support and all those associated costs. I blew 1 clutch & PP, and broke a lower control arm (scary), but other than that just normal wear & tear. Hell my 3.4 996 costs me more to run then my cup ever did.
If you're anywhere near a shop or individual running the IMSA Patron Cup series, you've just found yourself a great source of Yokohama take offs whcih are great for practice and even races depending on their previous use. We buy them here for $400-500 per set, with never more than 2-3 HC's and they a whole lot longer than that....
If you're anywhere near a shop or individual running the IMSA Patron Cup series, you've just found yourself a great source of Yokohama take offs whcih are great for practice and even races depending on their previous use. We buy them here for $400-500 per set, with never more than 2-3 HC's and they a whole lot longer than that....
If you want to go out and have fun, and run used tires (which I used to do so in DE days) and go way beyond the life cycle of critical parts, then yes it can be done more cheaply.
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Agree with Chris (RSR racer) and Claykos. A Cup car by itself is not more expensive than any other car.
However, if you get into racing and you happen to have some competition, and God knows we are not doing this to watch the daisies go by but to win, then the expenses go up. It is not because of the car, but because of the associated support, resources and equipment required to be up front.
The car doesn't make it more expensive per se, it is the surrounding environment and expectations from the car what makes the costs go up.
I did 9 Club Race weekends last year and planning to do 10 this yer with a 996 Cup car. Every weeekend is different based on how much I want to drive, how fast I want to drive and how many resources I am putting on the table to be upfront.
Sorry to be vague, but as much as we want to brag that we are spending fortunes on this sport, the reality is that I don't want to know how much I spend to be up there with my Cup car....
CIAO!!!
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However, if you get into racing and you happen to have some competition, and God knows we are not doing this to watch the daisies go by but to win, then the expenses go up. It is not because of the car, but because of the associated support, resources and equipment required to be up front.
The car doesn't make it more expensive per se, it is the surrounding environment and expectations from the car what makes the costs go up.
I did 9 Club Race weekends last year and planning to do 10 this yer with a 996 Cup car. Every weeekend is different based on how much I want to drive, how fast I want to drive and how many resources I am putting on the table to be upfront.
Sorry to be vague, but as much as we want to brag that we are spending fortunes on this sport, the reality is that I don't want to know how much I spend to be up there with my Cup car....
CIAO!!!
FAP
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If you drive your car to win, and equip it to win, and maintain it to win, AND if you dont transport or turn your own wrench, 12-15K per weekend.
If you want to go out and have fun, and run used tires (which I used to do so in DE days) and go way beyond the life cycle of critical parts, then yes it can be done more cheaply.
If you want to go out and have fun, and run used tires (which I used to do so in DE days) and go way beyond the life cycle of critical parts, then yes it can be done more cheaply.
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Even my '73 RS is getting ridiculous, this year due to trans and engine problems. A 996 cup would have been cheaper than the '73 the last few years and I could have completed races (the '73 has not finished any of it's last 5 or 6 race weekends).
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Just open the wallet and smile!
My normal answere is. It costs money! and if you don´t like it do something else.
This is my firt seson with the cup and I have spent more money than I spent
for two year on my 968, and that is on four race.
But the tourqe makes me smile!
Sorry for the mis spelling.
Pelle
My normal answere is. It costs money! and if you don´t like it do something else.
This is my firt seson with the cup and I have spent more money than I spent
for two year on my 968, and that is on four race.
But the tourqe makes me smile!
Sorry for the mis spelling.
Pelle
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This whole subject is in clear violation of " racer code"
you all need to step away from the keyboard, do not, I repeat, do not attempt to consolidate receipts, itemize expenses, check or " keep a budget" from this point forward. All of you veteran " cup racers" I'm so disappointed after all your years of training, you engage in this exercise of foolish false fiduciary aspirations. You all know better.....good grief![Wink](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
If you continue, were going to have to escalate this...lol
you all need to step away from the keyboard, do not, I repeat, do not attempt to consolidate receipts, itemize expenses, check or " keep a budget" from this point forward. All of you veteran " cup racers" I'm so disappointed after all your years of training, you engage in this exercise of foolish false fiduciary aspirations. You all know better.....good grief
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If you continue, were going to have to escalate this...lol
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I have seen some early cars with great drivers consistently beat newer cars so you then have to ask yourself how much is the car and how much is the guy behind the wheel....
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