James-GMG

I think there may be some room for this car in the new GTB2 class as they are plugging in the X51 997, with 381hp and 3050lbs, into this class and the 996 GT3 would be a perfect fit.

Speed GT......time to start lobbying!

LVDell

Not going to happen. It's been lobbied for already and while the ratio works, the biggest separation (and why it's in GTA and not GTB) is the the gearbox and motor. They aren't even close.

SpeedGT3

I dont see WHY it wouldnt happen.
The numbers are the same................
Same horsepower right?

997 X51

376 hp@7200,
306 ft·lb

996/GT3

375 horsepower
284 pound-feet),

The gear box is a wash..... 22lbs of TORQUE in the X51.

This class would be PERFECT for the GT3

LVDell

It's not the numbers. And you're missing the differences in the gearbox and motor (it's not hp and tq). GT3 gearbox is VERY robust and strong. The Carrera gearbox is disposable and doesn't last long. Trust me, have already gone through this process.

I thought it would be perfect as well but the sticking point with PCA was the gearbox and motor.

Darren

If you get sick of PCA rule silliness come race NASA GTS

SpeedGT3

Dependability should NOT dictate a car's classification!!!
That is ridiculous.

Speed and competitiveness should dictate.

LVDell

While I agree with you that is not the philosophy of PCA and how the GT3 is classed. PCA has determined that the GT3 fits in stock/prepared or GTA.

At the end of the day though I learned my lesson after doing the research.....pick a class FIRST and then build (or buy) the car. Not the other way around.



It also doesn't help that there is little if anybody lobbying to add a GT3 to the GTB class. Classes don't change based on a couple guys......change comes with large numbers.

James-GMG

I guess the next question would be, who do you contact at PCA to discuss this new GTB Classification? The GTB2 class just came out so I would be surprised if you already approached PCA about putting the 996 GT3 in GTB2, as it does seem like a logical choice for classifying that car. And I do know of 8-10 996 GT3's that are being prepped for Club racing and with PCA not putting these cars in a compettive class, it will lose these competitors to POC, NASA, etc.

And I am sure PCA would love to encourage more racers to run with them.....the last 2 PCA races I attended were down on competitors.

Darren

It obviously has to be worked out -- I have similar issues with my GTS4 (NASA) 02 996 in PCA. The PCA rules seem too slow to respond.

James-GMG

Darren,

Wouldn't your car fit in GTB1 now?

Darren

Sorry, looking at the rules for 2010 GTB I still see that my GT3RS uprights are illegal. Is GTB1 something different?

James-GMG

GTB1 is for all 996 and 997 3.6 and Cayman S cars and GTB2 is for the 3.8 997 cars. They have listed a 997 3.8 X51 with 381 HP in GTB2 with a weight of 3050 and a weight/HP ratio of 8.01.

This would be a great place to put the 996 GT3. I am aware of the stronger gearbox in the GT3 but I can assure you that the 997 3.8 X51 motor pulls much stronger on the low end and the 2 of these cars would be a great class to build upon.

Darren

Where are these new rules? I'm just going off the 2010 rules posted on pca.org

mooty

LOL, this is f'k funny.
speedgt3 and dell are really on same side. we all want to get GT3 into hp/wt class, you can call it gtb gta gt****. i dont care about name. but PCA is old dinosaur and dont move fast. have you tried ever to argue with DMV.... the big rock in my backyard responds faster and has more logic than either pca or dmv.

while like many smart ppl, dell learned to pick a class first... i tried that. but what i decide to do is drive what i want to drive. and have fun. winning is over rated, unless there's BIG purse money. since i make more $ working than racing....

i find it kind of strange that it's my money but some organization would decide and tell me what tires i need to run, how i can and cannot modify my car....

dont you all find this strange? you goto macy's to buy a blue blazer, but the sale staff tells you "no", it's monday, you must by a red blazer with purple slacks...

speedgt3, go for it. i may do something insane like you too. and i may just drive my daughter to school in a race car like yours :-)

yes, most of my friends all think i am 99.9% psycho.

Darren

Pick a class first with PCA, in what I've seen, is stupid. There is always A CAR that dominates in every class. This is why I don't race PCA but it's also what I want to see change so that I can.

What is more simple that NASA GTS hp/weight ratios?