nono993

Dear all,

Couldn't find any reliable data on the internet.

Does anybody know the differences bt these versions? Characteristics? Weight?

Thanks in advance!

jrotsaert

The N/GT was streetable, i.e. road legal - means a hand brake, a horn, 5 bolts on the wheels instead of a center one, no air jacks, stuff like that. N/GT was also/is the series for racing "spec" cars in Europe (mostly France)
The cup car was a full race car and at the time couldn't be raced in much else than the national cup series and the super cup.
Not a complete answer but hopefully helpful still
JM

DrJupeman

964 Cups have 5 bolt wheels.

AndyT

Jupe I have seen some with centerlocks. Was that a change done by the owner of the car ? Or was that an option ? I have seen this on the cars that have the Speedline wheels.

DrJupeman

Not factory.

Geoffrey

There is a 964 Cup car that I am aware of that was delivered with Center Locks and that is owned by Steve Alarcon who has papwerwork showing that it was ordered that way. I don't believe the car raced in the Cup series, but rather a different series where centerlocks would have been legal, but his car is an original M001 Carrera Cup car. The Carrera Cup series did not use center locking wheels. They do have hand brakes though.

Bob Gagnon wrote a piece called the Lightweight Carrera Confusion which has the detailed differences between the M001, M002, M003, C2, RSA, USA Cup cars.

AndyT

Geoffrey to you make a point about the hand brake because you cannot torque the centerlock nut without it ? I tried to torque the centerlock nuts the other day on my car with new tires and all they did was spin on the ground. The solution was to have my friend sit in the car with his foot on the brakes.

Geoffrey

No, I make the point about the handbrake because they came with one, thats all. Something doesn't sound correct, I can torque the centerlocks on my car with it in gear, and I am well over 500lbs lighter than your car.

togabikes

[QUOTE=Geoffrey;4626315]There is a 964 Cup car that I am aware of that was delivered with Center Locks and that is owned by Steve Alarcon who has papwerwork showing that it was ordered that way.

I believe Steve's car will be for sale once he is done converting it back to Cup specs

Geoffrey

I believe he already has a buyer for the car. I also think he is retaining the centerlocking hub setup.

JC in NY

Why do you think that? I saw video of the car when it was retired from Carrera Cup racing and it had all of the German Carrera Cup markings.

jrgordonsenior

Andy try a lower gear like first though someone on the brakes is preferable.

GT3 Nut

Same here in my 996 Cup.

jrgordonsenior

Maybe you guys should leakdown your motors ....

GT3 Nut

My motor is fresh.
I guess I should have qualified my statement and said it happens on the front wheels only.