Steve113

Cant get the Function First guys to get back to me . Sent several e-mails and they don't have a telephone number on there site . Very strange

Function-First

I’m here!

bauerjab

I just put one in after talking to Bob and Ron. Install is easy. And Steve, if it works that well, I won't have to see you in my mirror on the backstraight of LRP. ��

Viperbob1

Costs are generic costs with see with mostly parts. Labor to do a 996 box is around $1200 to dismantle and rebuild. On a 997 they are designed to have a large rev between shifts and the shifter has to be used pretty aggressively. You dont just sort of push it lightly. You ram it pretty good. People think taking it easy on the box will keep from damaging it. Just the opposite. Light shifting and lack of revs will turn the inside into a mix of random metal shavings, and unidentifiable bits and pieces.

spiller

Viperbob1

Between a 996 and a 997 Gen 1 I would go with the 996 all day long. If a Gen 2 997, that is a different car. But it is also the car that everyone is upgrading and spending big dollars with paddle shifts, 4.0 upgrades, etc. GTC5 stock class is still a good class.

dogger15

Could you elaborate on those Gen 1 to Gen 2 differences. I'd like to know what other areas I should focus on with my car.

spiller

I would love to know more about your opinion on why 996 is more preferential than 997.1 to you? I have buddies pushing me in the opposite direction as they are all racing 997.1!

spiller

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Viperbob1

I just enjoy the 996 more. I love the shifting. Always hated the 997 sequential. And if you look at PCA Club Race times in most events, the winning GTC3 would generally have been on the podium in the GTC4 group. Also motor in a 996 will last longer than a 997. And now that Porsche is out of 996 heads and you can use 997 heads, the cars are just that much faster. Unless your buddies are REAL good with the 997.1, you probably can pass them with a 996....

Steve113

Well said Bob

The 997 head is good and bad. Bad for me because my engine has not been apart but good for those guys with fresh engine rebuilds. I wonder how much more HP it gives them?

John if I didn't blow the start with my shifting then I wouldn't had had the push to get the lap record

Viperbob1

According to Club rules you cant modify the intake to take advantage of the larger 997 intake ports. But lets say maybe you did say have an extra manifold laying around that happened to be ported to the 997 intake opening size. Then for those non-club race times you wanted to gain a little more power. You will find that Santa had brought you about 10-15 extra ponies to play with...

Juha G

996 vs. 997.1 CUP; I can tell you the 7 is faster. I struggled to keep up in my 996 racing my friends driving 997.1s. After I switched to 7 we were dead even and did some really nice bumper to bumper racing.
Maybe the difference is smaller when you put a pro behind the wheel but in amateur hands the 7 is faster. Comparable lap times are 0,5s/km slower. (1.5s on a 3km circuit). Most of this due to the faster acceleration of the 997 (more power, more rear end grip, MUCH faster shifting).
So I would get the car your friends/competition are racing. just my .02

spiller

That's an interesting point. I would have thought pro would make the gap between the cars larger since the 7 is supposed to be more difficult to extract speed from? I just like the cool factor of the 996 with the shifter and whilst its not as fast, it seems to be more durable from a maintenance perspective which is important for me since I will only use the car 5-10x per year.

Do people do DE or track days in their cup cars over there in the USA? 6 cup wouldn't be a total waste if not necessarily racing it every weekend in my eyes. It would still be a fun track day car, whereas with the 7 it seems like you need to be racing it to make it worthwhile.

Matt Romanowski

For guys that want to track hours/miles on parts, check out www.racecartracking.com The website was built by a fellow 996 Cup owner who wanted to track time on his axles. You can input any part and it will automatically track the time/hours and give you warnings about when you are approaching the limits. A really terrific tool.