Widefire 951 head gasket
03-19-2003, 12:34 AM
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Paragon products has tham, made by Victor Reinz. I beleive that most are the same, look around the turbo forum, there was a recent discussion on them and #s along with sellers and manufacturers. Good luck
03-21-2003, 03:08 PM
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Paragon Products' offered Widefire head gasket product number is 951.104.374.02, which according to PET is an usual 944/951 head gasket. What to think about it? Is Paragon selling widefire or original gasket with the widefire name?
03-24-2003, 10:18 AM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by James Herne:
<strong>Paragon Products' offered Widefire head gasket product number is 951.104.374.02, which according to PET is an usual 944/951 head gasket. What to think about it? Is Paragon selling widefire or original gasket with the widefire name?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Hi James! Playing with booooost <img border="0" alt="[nono]" title="" src="graemlins/nono.gif" />
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<strong>Paragon Products' offered Widefire head gasket product number is 951.104.374.02, which according to PET is an usual 944/951 head gasket. What to think about it? Is Paragon selling widefire or original gasket with the widefire name?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Hi James! Playing with booooost <img border="0" alt="[nono]" title="" src="graemlins/nono.gif" />
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03-27-2003, 10:00 PM
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Huntley Racing has just released the ULTIMATE gasket for the 944 and 944 turbo as well as the 16V variants. These gaskets are full metal jacketed for the most support possible to avoid 'blow-out' and far superior heat transfer properties to avoid 'burn-out'. We offer these in two styles: FMJ and FMJ-OR. The 'OR' stands for internally o-ringed gasket. These have an o-ring embedded in the gasket which adds higher clamp down around the cylinder WITHOUT requiring additional machine work to the head or block!! These have proven far superior to the old-school 'wide-fire-ring' gasket in applications running very high boost. These gaskets are available in the standard 100mm bore as well as custom bore sizes up to 110mm. We stock 100mm and 106mm for immediate delivery. The FMJ runs $127.92 and the FMJ-OR runs $175.92. For more info contact me at Huntley Racing.
03-29-2003, 01:02 AM
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Hey Derrek,
Out of curiousity, what would the new failure point be after installing your new headgasket? Serious question, not a flame here.
Regards,
Out of curiousity, what would the new failure point be after installing your new headgasket? Serious question, not a flame here.
Regards,
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Good question Scott. Ultimately the cause of most of head gasket failures, burned valves, cracked blocks and cracked head, broken piston rings, burned pistons and such is detonation or pre-ignition. Regardless of the type of headgasket you use, detonation will eventually cause one of the failures above. NO MATTER HOW STRONG YOU MAKE THE MOTOR, DETONATION WILL CAUSE DAMADGE!! I have to emphasize that point since few in the aftermarket business seem to focus on this. If you are detonating you need to stop driving the car until you fix the problem. The causes of detonation are many and often several factors lead to this. The most common are: Lean mixtures, too much ignition advance, low octane, hot spots (carbon buildup, poorly machined pistons, poorly machined combustion chamber), too much compression or boost, high induction temps, high exhaust backpressure, etc... Let me clarify that just because you run 25 PSI of boost DOES NOT MEAN you will ping!! If you have enough fuel at the right octane and your turbo is in it's efficiency range and there are no pre-ignition sources you may be able to run this boost all the time safely, but if you have a turbo putting out 200F because it is out of it's map, and are running 87 Oct and have lots of carbon buildup etc... expect to hurt the motor. This all being said, using an inferior head gasket because it is a fuse, is a poor excuse for lack of proper 'tuning' of your car to avoid detonation. By improving the head gasket we have added extra insurance and avoided the other 10% of head gasket failures (the deterioration of the composite fiber gaskets, and fire ring collapse). Plus these gaskets offer you some buffer when the car starts to detonate, to cure the problem BEFORE you blow a headgasket or do other damage. In all likelihood you will still blow these gaskets BEFORE any of the other failures anyway but just not as soon. Good luck.
