AndrewP

http://www.carsvw.com/2011/09/spy-sh...es-a-facelift/

Reported changes to front and rear lights and bumpers appear subtle. Engine and other changes may also be incremental.

Alpineace

its still ugly

AndrewP

Exterior design is subjective and the roofline is ungainly, although with the black trim option not as bad. Dynamically, however I would like to know if there is another four door car that comes close to the Pan turbo.

Alpineace

well even though I thought the last 5 series was ugly to, the M5 version atleast was ugly in an apache helicopter sort of way, but at least it looked like suit.... rather than a lady gag me outfit.

Sun Ra

the ferrari FF is uglier and the pane turbo s is f.g fast, damn near as fast as my turbo s

which i s why i plan to get one

does anyone have a pic of a pane sunroof?? how big is it?? thanks

Alpineace

WHAT??? the FF is WAAAAAAAY better looking, It looks like ferraris version of the BMW M coupe (z3 body).

I guess you have more money than taste....


Ill trade you some of my good taste for some of your money

Sun Ra

Beauty is subjective your poor manners are not.

Alpineace

ONLY to a degree, then you're stuck with plain ugly, and you'll hate yourself when you finally admit it!
At least I NEVER leave people wondering.... would you rather I say you look nice today, if you looked terrible? Bad things can be fixed, and knowing about mistakes makes them happen less often... If people just go by and say "oh yeah thats great" to everything; pretty soon everything will be ****=Panamera

http://youtu.be/k9yQNxobD8w

Targa Tim

I agree with Watt. The Ferrari is way uglier than Panamera. I will get a FF only if it is free.

Randy V

Dude - what is that car in your avatar?

That thing puts the Ug in ugly.

You got the Pan beat hands-down.

AndrewP

Although I am reluctant to engage this obviously angry person who has gone out of his, or is it her, way to put others down, I second your comment.

blk on blk

+infinity.

we get it. you don't like the panamera. whatever. go find some other place to thread ****.

TomFromCT

+1

Agree. Poopy head needs to move on.

Alpineace

while im at it, I used to live in houston.... that place sucks more than the Panny

Bonster

Alpineace . . . I ask this in the most earnest way I know how . . . if you hate the Panamera so much, what the HELL are you doing on the Panamera forum?!? Plus, I see in your siggy that you have a car for sale. You are not doing yourself any favors by (a) hanging out in a forum of folks that like the Panamera, and (b) pissing off what could be a potential buyer. I'd never buy a car from someone who was so rude, just out of principle. You've already said a bunch of times how you dislike the Panamera car. Fine. Move on and leave these nice folks alone, will ya?