$ 165,000 Panamera Turbo
03-17-2010, 07:20 PM
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Uhh, he didnt say A6 or A8... he said Audi 6 or 8, as in S6 or S8. A 450hp Lambo-powered V10 Audi that doesnt look like a bastardized station wagon and leaves $50k in my pocket to play with sounds pretty good to me.
03-19-2010, 03:46 AM
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03-19-2010, 09:58 PM
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I chose the S8 but I might go with a P4S next time around. I try to avoid the first year of a new model. I absolutely love the S8 though! Great car.
03-30-2010, 03:23 AM
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By your sig you have one. Good for cruising/posing/pull up to a restaurant but when it comes to performance that thing is in the lost zipcode................as a matter of fact no Aston holds a candle to a Porsche apple to apples standing toe to toe. Fact.
Btw , the Panamera will drop like a rock in value but it will look like a Rockstar in comparison to a Aston, lol, they sink even faster than the Hood when it got iced by the Bismarck................
03-30-2010, 05:15 PM
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PeePee,
Sad. Once again, we have someone sufficiently arrogant and ignorant enough to proclaim what can only be, by definition, his/her opinion as a "fact."
And you have driven "all" of them. So, you've driven every car, then. Impressive. 
It's sad that a couple of people have to turn a nice discussion, where opinions were being exchanged pleasantly, into an attack on a member's choice of car.
The "fact" that "no Aston holds a candle to a Porsche apple to apples standing toe to toe" is utterly absurd. Performance is "in the lost zipcode." What an ignorant thing to say. Some performance figures for the 4.7 liter V8 Vantage (don't confuse it with the earlier 4.3 liter); 0 - 60 in 4.1 - 4.3, 0 - 100 in 9.9 - 10.2, 1/4 mile speeds of 112 - 115 from the various magazines. Embarrassing figures, aren't they.
What is so great about the current Astons is that they are superb driver's cars in addition to being stunningly beautiful objects. I looked at many different cars before I bought my '09 V8 Vantage, including the 997S, 997 Turbo and the R8. Not even the Aston's stunning looks could have persuaded me to buy it if it didn't have the substance to back it up. 420 hp and 346 lbs/ft is in the lost zipcode, apparently.
The level of craftsmanship seen in a new Aston is on a completely higher level than that of a new Porsche, and the difference in materials quality is substantial. Aston doesn't use any "metal look" plastic like Porsche does. Look at the paint quality, the leather quality, the instruments, the switchgear. One is nice, the other is truly special, and we all know which is which.
Look at the engine compartment of a new V8 Vantage, and look, for example, at the dry sump tank. A real dry sump, by the way. When one looks under things and behind things at the stuff people don't normally see, the workmanship is superb. Let's not get started on the major durability problems of the 986/7 and 996/7 engines.
Resale?
You must be joking. Porsche resale value used to be better than most others, but no more. 996 values, anyone? 997 doesn't do much better.
Aston Martin makes exquisite, hugely desirable cars that are beautifully constructed and are wonderful driver's cars. This wasn't always the case, but it is now. Whether they are better or worse than a Porsche is a matter of opinion, but the notion that they aren't competitive is simply ignorant. They are different cars, and we are all better off for having the choice.
Oh, and owning an Aston Martin is wonderful, and very different from merely driving one.
Sad. Once again, we have someone sufficiently arrogant and ignorant enough to proclaim what can only be, by definition, his/her opinion as a "fact."
And you have driven "all" of them. So, you've driven every car, then. Impressive. It's sad that a couple of people have to turn a nice discussion, where opinions were being exchanged pleasantly, into an attack on a member's choice of car.The "fact" that "no Aston holds a candle to a Porsche apple to apples standing toe to toe" is utterly absurd. Performance is "in the lost zipcode." What an ignorant thing to say. Some performance figures for the 4.7 liter V8 Vantage (don't confuse it with the earlier 4.3 liter); 0 - 60 in 4.1 - 4.3, 0 - 100 in 9.9 - 10.2, 1/4 mile speeds of 112 - 115 from the various magazines. Embarrassing figures, aren't they.
What is so great about the current Astons is that they are superb driver's cars in addition to being stunningly beautiful objects. I looked at many different cars before I bought my '09 V8 Vantage, including the 997S, 997 Turbo and the R8. Not even the Aston's stunning looks could have persuaded me to buy it if it didn't have the substance to back it up. 420 hp and 346 lbs/ft is in the lost zipcode, apparently.
The level of craftsmanship seen in a new Aston is on a completely higher level than that of a new Porsche, and the difference in materials quality is substantial. Aston doesn't use any "metal look" plastic like Porsche does. Look at the paint quality, the leather quality, the instruments, the switchgear. One is nice, the other is truly special, and we all know which is which.
Look at the engine compartment of a new V8 Vantage, and look, for example, at the dry sump tank. A real dry sump, by the way. When one looks under things and behind things at the stuff people don't normally see, the workmanship is superb. Let's not get started on the major durability problems of the 986/7 and 996/7 engines.
Resale?
You must be joking. Porsche resale value used to be better than most others, but no more. 996 values, anyone? 997 doesn't do much better.Aston Martin makes exquisite, hugely desirable cars that are beautifully constructed and are wonderful driver's cars. This wasn't always the case, but it is now. Whether they are better or worse than a Porsche is a matter of opinion, but the notion that they aren't competitive is simply ignorant. They are different cars, and we are all better off for having the choice.
Oh, and owning an Aston Martin is wonderful, and very different from merely driving one.
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04-01-2010, 02:09 AM
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That would be huge fun, and you'd still have lots of change left from $165K. Actually, for that $165K, you could potentially buy a new V8 Vantage and a 993, or a new 997 and a used V8 Vantage.
04-01-2010, 10:55 AM
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Let's see, a new Hunter 39, a slightly used Beneteau of the same length, a slightly used factory Supercup, a new GT3 and 535i, one terrific F430 Spyder, a complete home remodeling to the highest standard or a whole lot of nice used airplanes.
Or you could wait a few years and buy the Pano for $80K. It's going to depreciate one hell of a lot quicker than the other choices.
Or you could wait a few years and buy the Pano for $80K. It's going to depreciate one hell of a lot quicker than the other choices.