randomusername

I'll be honest i'm total delusional, i want a 970 panamera so bad that this seems like fixable to me lol.
Obviously i can't make this decision on my own, but any technicians or experts or who is more knowledgeable than me in these cars, could you tell me if this car is worth fixing or is it even fixable?


chassis

On a scale of 1-10 with 10 being a bad idea, and 1 being a good idea, this is a 15.

Bad idea.

randomusername

thanks for your input, it's 20k euro and a diesel with 96k km, i was thinking of getting a bad end donor car( if i could find one) and replace all the interior. but thanks i'll stay away from it

sac02

That is not a novice level project. If you are on an internet forum forum asking if it's possible, it's probably safe to assume you don't yet have the tools or capability to take on a project this size.

sac02

The other thing to consider:

Cars these days use LOTS of high-strength and ultra-high-strength steels in critical areas. Vehicle fires are hot enough to destroy to heat treat on the steel.

A car that has suffered a fire will NEVER perform properly as designed in a crash.

No matter how perfect the rest of the mechanical and body repair is, the structure is unrepairable in this regard.

IMO the only thing a fire vehicle is good for is a track car that is getting a cage.

chassis

Revised idea rating: 18 on a scale of 1 to 10.

SuperG$

No kidding. A heroin addiction would be a better idea than trying to restore this particular car.

Marcus13190

What's the cause of the fire ?

randomusername

i don't agree with that at all, internet forums are made for this, lot's of car guys start by having 0 knowledge of cars by learning from the internet.

randomusername

seller wrote "vandalism" but also he wrote that the engine and gearbox are fine, but pics of engine say otherwise (see spoiler)


sac02

Yes - The internet is a great resource.

No - That does not mean that a full rebuild of a late model German luxury car should be anyone's first real project other than spark plugs and oil changes (which is very much what this OP sounds like).

That is insanity.

SuperG$

Absolutely. Every millimeter of wiring will have to be removed and replaced. All the different computer modules will have to be sourced and then coded to work properly together. Then there's the metal work. You probably need to strip it down to bare metal. This isn't a 356 Gmünd coupe, it's a Panamera and as much as we love them, they're not that special. Let this burned up hulk cross the rainbow bridge to the great racetrack in the sky.

numbskull

Barely even a roller. Given for free I would stuff a used junkyard LS motor with carb in it, add a safety cage and off to the crash derby.

Panaseeya

Maybe if it was a GTS or Turbo, but I wouldn't bother for a 4S.

jsdinky

Not even with Bea Arthur's money