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Second time I’ve changed oil on ‘14 panny. What a PIA. 911 takes minutes to remove plug/oil filter, and re-install. Less than hr including 45 min to let oil drain.
Panny, oh no. Whomever designed the bottom air flow cover should be shot. Crappy fasteners and bulky to deal with. Should have put rails to slide it in then fasten 3-4 up the middle with decent fasteners. Instead you’re crawling around way under car removing/installing POS fasteners. 2+ hr job with jacking around.
But big shout out for fcpeuro and lifetime warranty. Cost of oil changes ends up being shipping charges and tax, sweet deal. Makes up for pain of doing oil change.
I’ll replace air filter in another 10k miles, and suffer the PIA it is on Panny due to removal of front bumper. Another cluster design compare to my 911 which only takes removal of air box cover.
Front end off for the air filter, yup a truly dreadful piece of design.
I did that job on my high mileage Panamera and cursed the design engineers at Porsche during the entire process.
I suspect they build the first Panamera and then someone said, "Hey Helmut............. did you forget the airfilter?" Helmut; "Oh Crap....... OK, I'll tuck it into the front bumper and hope nobody notices."
It took many many hours to R&R. It wasn't difficult, but it certainly was tedious.
Last edited by Mozella55; Jan 28, 2021 at 06:08 AM.
I'm getting ready to change oil for the first time in my 2010 Panamera Turbo, since I bought it that is. While its still fresh in your mind, can you say about how many fasteners there are to remove the underneath air shield and what tool you used to remove them with (are they torx fasteners or push-pin style).? Did you damage any of the fasteners and have to replace them? (If so, part number?)
One more dumb question if you don't mind: did you use 5-40W synthetic or did you substitute 5-30 synthetic? 5-40W synthetic is not easy to find where I live.
I have a 2012 hybrid and my oil filter is on the top of the motor. So I was able to use vacuum pump to extract the oil from the dipstick. Makes oil changes easier.
can you say about how many fasteners there are to remove the underneath air shield and what tool you used to remove them with (are they torx fasteners or push-pin style)?
Oil change is super easy and nothing to dread. Just take your time and enjoy how much $$ you are saving! This is the video I reviewed before doing it the 1st time and it goes over everything in detail:
did you use 5-40W synthetic or did you substitute 5-30 synthetic?
I used Liqui Moly Leichtlauf High Tech 5W-40 (same as my Indy shop). Bought an “oil change kit” from FCPEuro. $100 for everything with free shipping so easy.
I'm getting ready to change oil for the first time in my 2010 Panamera Turbo, since I bought it that is. While its still fresh in your mind, can you say about how many fasteners there are to remove the underneath air shield and what tool you used to remove them with (are they torx fasteners or push-pin style).? Did you damage any of the fasteners and have to replace them? (If so, part number?)
One more dumb question if you don't mind: did you use 5-40W synthetic or did you substitute 5-30 synthetic? 5-40W synthetic is not easy to find where I live.
Thanks a lot. Not looking forward to it.
No dumb questions!! If there were I’d be the winner.
Torx T-25. Didn’t damage any removing, when re-install just snug, they use clips to screw into. There’s about hmmm, 20 or so? I used screwdriver type with attaching torx to remove. Also need to remove u shaped frame with ratchet and think 7/8 socket.
I used 0-40 Liqui Moly synthetic. Recommend fcpeuro.com. Buy oil change kit, get oil, plug/gasket, oil filter/gasket. Next time buy kit, send in used oil, filter, plug, etc for credit. Do not overfill, I used big jug and 3 1/3 of little ones.. Then drive until can check oil. If needed put little in, just a little moves the level quite a bit. Max for me would be big jug + 3 1/2 little ones. Your turbo may differ from my S.
Thanks for the great info, Mano. Very helpful. I'm surprised fcpeuro takes used oil and parts back for a credit, really? That sounds like a mess to be honest...returning used oil, etc.
Regarding your scanner (Foxwell NT630), with two Porsches in your garage, why didn't you get a PIWIS so you could perform a lot more functions? For instance, I have a headlight control fault on my Panamera (previous owner installed after market headlamps after getting car repaired after an accident...no airbag deployment or anything at that level). But now I have a permanent headlight control fault glaring at me. Was going to see if a PIWIS could resolve that by coding the new headlamps to the car. (may or may not work). However, I'm pretty sure you can't do that with Foxwell NT630. PIWIS prices are coming down...so am considering getting one even though I only have one P-car.
Thanks for the great info, Mano. Very helpful. I'm surprised fcpeuro takes used oil and parts back for a credit, really? That sounds like a mess to be honest...returning used oil, etc.
Regarding your scanner (Foxwell NT630), with two Porsches in your garage, why didn't you get a PIWIS so you could perform a lot more functions? For instance, I have a headlight control fault on my Panamera (previous owner installed after market headlamps after getting car repaired after an accident...no airbag deployment or anything at that level). But now I have a permanent headlight control fault glaring at me. Was going to see if a PIWIS could resolve that by coding the new headlamps to the car. (may or may not work). However, I'm pretty sure you can't do that with Foxwell NT630. PIWIS prices are coming down...so am considering getting one even though I only have one P-car.
It was cheap and met need for basic stuff, eg service resets.
Agree, the oil change is easy. My oil pan was leaking so I replaced the gasket, also super easy. (I have a lift, so I guess that's a factor). My only complaint was that the leaking dirty oil absorbed into the belly bap plastic making a big mess.
Agree, the oil change is easy. My oil pan was leaking so I replaced the gasket, also super easy. (I have a lift, so I guess that's a factor). My only complaint was that the leaking dirty oil absorbed into the belly bap plastic making a big mess.
Designing lake house to have lift (wife doesn’t understand why garage almost big as living area lol). What lift you have? Architect big Porsche guy and surveyed his running buddies and they agreed backyard buddy is their choice,
I have had a Direct Lift from a dealer in Ft. Worth, for about 10 years and have been very happy with it. The only issue I've had is that one of the hydraulic hose fittings got lose and leaked some fluid, but that's more of an install problem. I paid about $1600 for the 9k lb lift, and about $300 for the install. A lift is really worth it if you work on your own cars, makes everything so much easier and fun. I think mine paid for itself in the first 6 mths.
The garage is a bit tight right now after buying a 5th 928, but I hope to sell the black '82 before too long. As you can see, the empty spot where I am standing is the VERY important spot for the wife's car. Don't forget that.
Sweet gararge lol. My architect also has 2 post lift, I’m waffling. Advantage of 4 post is can move it if need be, I’ve got several months to decide. I’ll take your advice on wife’s car. I grew up hearing my mother chewing my father out in bad weather and getting rained on cause garage always full with boat and car being worked on. Current house has 2 car attached and 2 car detached for that specific reason. New one will be little more total space, but to have nice work space and storage at back for mower, tractor, couples bikes etc, prefer to get lift for 4th car. But still far smaller than yours it appears!
Pitiful we have such life problems, I feel lucky every day I wake up.
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