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I've been doing a lot of research on this forum as I'm thinking of pulling the trigger on a 2011 Panamera Turbo. It's out of warranty and has 125,000km (75,000 miles). What would your opinion be on it and do you think it's a good deal? I'm getting it for $45,000 CAD and its loaded with options. Any issues I should look out for? Are they reliable?
BASE- Panamera Turbo
250-7-speed Porsche Doppelkupplung (PDK)
345-Heated Steering Wheel
351-Adaptive Air Suspension in Conjunction With PDCC
379-Standard 14-way Power Seats with Memory Package
425-Rear Wiper
450-Porsche Ceramic Composite Brake (PCCB)
541-Seat Ventilation (Front)
619-Bluetooth® Phone Interface
640-Sport Chrono Package Plus
658-Variable Assist Power Steering
686-XM Satellite Radio®
693-6 disc CD/DVD changer
715-Porsche Dynamic Chassis Control (PDCC) with Porsche Torque Vectoring (PTV Plus)
810-Floor Mats
822-Tineo Interior Package
834-8-way Power Seats (Rear)
849-Heated Three-Spoke Multifunction Steering Wheel in Tineo
865-Thermally and Noise Insulated Glass
870-Universal Audio Interface
970-Leather Interior Package in Two-Tone Leather
998-Natural Leather Interior
A6-Ruby Red Metallic
BN-Two-Tone Cognac/Cedar Natural Leather
P67-Comfort Plus Package
X80-Powerkit Panamera Turbo
XEX-Bi-Xenon headlights in black incl. Porsche Dynamic Light System (PDLS)
That is basically a Turbo S without the Badge and a unicorn level of options. I would compare whatever you pay to a similarly priced turbo S by year and mileage. 75,000 miles is not a lot for the 2011-2012 model year. If the car is in good shape, has a good traceable service history, and is a color combo that you like (not just are ok with) then I don't think that price is out of the question at all.
The power kit is almost non-existent as an option.
The PDCC and PVT is very very rare.
The disc changer isn't common.
Burmester?
Adaptive cruise?
Lane assist?
Sport design package? (front bumper).
The dealership had a custom race mechanic from a dealership safety the car. They dropped the price to $44,000 CAD for me. The car is in immaculate shape. Most of the miles looks like the previous owner used to drive from Toronto to Florida during the winter months.
It has the normal Bose sound system but i'm not that into music anyway so the Bose I think would suffice. It has adaptive cruise but i'm not sure about lane assist. Sport design I'm also not sure about. I'm not too familiar with Porsche as yet.
Maybe you all could tell me by the pics?? I do like how the wheels have a bit of the colour of the car in it.
Exterior color is very uncommon particularly with the rest of the options.
Lack of burmester would be a deal break for me, but....the options it does have would probably make it up since they are so rare.
No sport exhaust.
If it has lane assist, there would lights on the inside of the mirrors that you could see.
No sport design, that is the base bumper.
It has heated and cooled seats, and looks like full climate controls in the rear.
Full folding privacy screens in the back which is nice.
I don't particularly like the wood trim, but it does sort of fit the overall car, and the exterior color is good. I always had the plan that if I had to settle for brown wood on the interior, and it wasn't the pin stripped version, I would cover it with a brown carbon fiber vinyl wrap. That is completely your preference. If its been taken care of, it looks like it will give you the full Panamera experience.
Exterior color is very uncommon particularly with the rest of the options.
Lack of burmester would be a deal break for me, but....the options it does have would probably make it up since they are so rare.
No sport exhaust.
If it has lane assist, there would lights on the inside of the mirrors that you could see.
No sport design, that is the base bumper.
It has heated and cooled seats, and looks like full climate controls in the rear.
Full folding privacy screens in the back which is nice.
I don't particularly like the wood trim, but it does sort of fit the overall car, and the exterior color is good. I always had the plan that if I had to settle for brown wood on the interior, and it wasn't the pin stripped version, I would cover it with a brown carbon fiber vinyl wrap. That is completely your preference. If its been taken care of, it looks like it will give you the full Panamera experience.
It doesn't have lane assist then. I've had lane assist on my previous cars and sometimes it's annoying but then other times when you are sleepy it comes in handy.
I think i'm going to pull the trigger today. I like how it drove. I previously owned a 2011 S63 and a 2013 Audi S8. The Audi would whoop this in a straight line but the Porsche would kill it on the track.
It doesn't have lane assist then. I've had lane assist on my previous cars and sometimes it's annoying but then other times when you are sleepy it comes in handy.
I think i'm going to pull the trigger today. I like how it drove. I previously owned a 2011 S63 and a 2013 Audi S8. The Audi would whoop this in a straight line but the Porsche would kill it on the track.
The S8 will not whoop a Panamera Turbo S or Turbo /Powerkit in a straight line, either with the RS7. In overboost you're hitting 600tq. My guess is everything else being equal they will walk away at some speeds on a roll. They will not launch better than you, especially after they have been hard launched more than their counter will allow. I came from an RS7 and while I think the RS7 is more brutal in its power delivery, and over all maybe 1/10th faster in some specific straight line power tests, its by no means a whooping situation. If you're racing to 150mph, I think the Audi is going to win. If youre staying at 150mph, the Panamera is going to catch up with a larger gas tank and better fuel economy at higher speeds ( as well as be far more poised at speed). In addition the Panamera Turbo puts down the power considerably better when road conditions are less than idea and especially in curves. That's not to say the RS7 wasn't good, because it was. It was very good. I'm splitting hairs.
Buy that thing and drive it away like you forgot to pay for it. And remember Paul is a Burmester snob. lol
I PULLED THE TRIGGER!! I pick her up Tuesday. Shame the first "mod" I have to do is put on winter tires though. It's coming with Bridgestone Potenza S007, they do not like the cold.
I PULLED THE TRIGGER!! I pick her up Tuesday. Shame the first "mod" I have to do is put on winter tires though. It's coming with Bridgestone Potenza S007, they do not like the cold.
Congrats on the car. Rare color combo. It's basically a Turbo S. Even the Turbo S didn't come with carbon brakes standard in Canada.
I highly recommend the stock winter tires Michelin Pilot Alpin. They don't feel like a winter tire at all but perform like one. The Panamera is a blast to drive in winter.
My only recommendation is to have someone check the coolant pipe the connects to the the engine. They were glued instead of clamped in the earlier years. They can come off and leave you stranded with a serious repair bill.
Congrats on the car. Rare color combo. It's basically a Turbo S. Even the Turbo S didn't come with carbon brakes standard in Canada.
I highly recommend the stock winter tires Michelin Pilot Alpin. They don't feel like a winter tire at all but perform like one. The Panamera is a blast to drive in winter.
My only recommendation is to have someone check the coolant pipe the connects to the the engine. They were glued instead of clamped in the earlier years. They can come off and leave you stranded with a serious repair bill.
I didn't know about the coolant pipes, thanks. I had a 2004 Cayenne Turbo years ago and those plastic coolant pipes went. Cost me $3500 to update them to the aluminum ones.
I didn't know about the coolant pipes, thanks. I had a 2004 Cayenne Turbo years ago and those plastic coolant pipes went. Cost me $3500 to update them to the aluminum ones.
Mine failed and thankfully I had the CPO warranty. They removed the engine to fix, which seems excessive but I guess that's the by the book repair. If you check this forum I've seen a post where someone had it fixed with engine on and if I remember correctly it wasn't that expensive to fix.
There's also two open recalls. One where water can infiltrate the air blower and cause it to fail / fire risk. And another where the car can roll even when in park.
May pull the trigger on a 2011 Turbo
as well as be far more poised at speed). In addition the Panamera Turbo puts down the power considerably better when road conditions are less than idea and especially in curves. That's not to say the RS7 wasn't good, because it was. It was very good. I'm splitting hairs.
