RDR142

I have '13 GTS and have no regrets. i went through same decision making process. to me it came down to sport appearance package (standard), sitting lower, heavier steering and better sounding. also i wanted carmine interior package and only came on GTS. it has nearly every upgrade/option turbo has but just had a better driving feel to me. the turbo is crazy fast but i prefer handling and curves more than flat out speed. i don't feel i'm lacking in power ever. it has plenty to get the car moving for my needs. when i drove both models, i just felt more of a connection to the car in the GTS which made my decision. i have a tuned x5m if i need all out power but i honestly never use it's full potential either.
it comes down to your preference and needs. either way you can't go wrong. choose which one is best for you and enjoy!

GoBlue!

I think $150 +/- is where I’d shoot for on that Turbo S as @pokingaround says. A $203 is a lightly configured car, probably missing RAS, Burmester, etc. They may scoff at $150, if so just walk beyond mid $150s. I just picked up a new 18 Turbo S ST for ~27% off MSRP and got them to add in CPO so I think the low $150s is a great target on a $203 car. If you are really getting into the $160s I think there are a couple better Turbo Ss out there than a $203 car.

socalcarguy

I would ask for $150K, which is 25%. With some patience, you will get the deal.

Will Tell

I spent a lot of time last year test driving the 4S and the Turbo back-to-back. I liked the 4S... a little lighter and it was fun slamming my foot on the pedal and downshifting in order to make it move... it's a little more "engaging," so to speak. The GTS wasn't yet out and I felt certain that that would be the sweet spot. But when I looked at the specs I decided against it. It really is just a de-tuned Turbo with some visual bits. And it's lowered--to me that was a deal-breaker as I live in the NE and have the crappy roads to deal with. If you don't have to have the Turbo, get the 4S (make sure you get sport chrono) and spec it properly.

raydog9379

Might be a dumb question, but how does that work on a brand new/never titled car that's an 18? Wouldn't new car warranty start on day 1 vs. needing to get a CPO? Or was this a titled car?

GoBlue!

Multiple dealers have told me it is possible to CPO a new never titled car. In my case, have the full 4/50 factory warranty plus 2 more years and unlimited miles on the CPO. Basically covered through 2025 with unlimited miles. I put on 20-25k miles a year and the Porsche CPO program is best-in-industry and a no-brained since I split the cost with the dealer as a sales incentive to move the car.

pokingaround

Oh man I wish I’d known to ask when I negotiated mine!

GoBlue!

I probably shouldn’t tell you what I paid for the CPO then....

chance6

What the GTS lacks in bhp to the TT, it makes up for in steering feel, more stiff ride, and handling laterally. 10mm lower on such a big car makes a big difference as well.

Whatever Panny you get, BE SURE TO GET PDCC. You'll thank me later.

chance6

as well they should, PTT values drop like a rock.

mawhitt01

Let me know when you are ready to get out of the 4GTS!

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mainly

just bought a 2018 turbo basically over the phone and your post has me a little worried.

I test drove a 2019 GTS and soon after instead bought the turbo, purely based on how much i loved the GTS.

ended up going with the turbo for similar reasons as others - could get a much better deal on a year old turbo with a few miles on it. while they were only willing to knock a few thousand $$ off the GTS.

i hope the sound of the turbo isn't that much worse. does it have the pops and bangs on deceleration like the GTS?


i found the ride quality on the gts to be unbelievable compliant. (blew away my recent '15 cls63s. which was very harsh)

the 2019 panamera gts was even better in terms of ride than the f90 m5 i drove the day before.

so now, im curious how the turbo will compare in all theses aspects since i wasn't able to test drive it as it was bought from a dealer across the country.

Strassenkurven

With the 970, the GTS basically has a louder exhaust. It also sits a little lower in comfort/sport height (same height as others in sport plus, though). Otherwise, they are the same car with different included options, and obviously the GTS is NA (and, thus, feels a little more direct) and the Turbo is.. turbo.

With the 971 GTS also being a turbo car, I have to assume that the differences are mostly exhaust again. The 970 Turbo is definitely more quiet, but its growl is still very noticeable. I turn heads regularly in mine (even in comfort, thanks to the PSE opening the exhaust some on shifts).

The impressions of the GTS will always be that it's more aggressive, because that's what Porsche wants. They tweak exhaust and suspension a bit. Put both cars in sport plus and you'll find less differences, I reckon.

In the end, the Turbo is the faster car, on the same chassis, with more options. It's a win for me, unless you want a more aggressive feeling car in comfort settings.

pokingaround

I agree with this. On the last bit, one could always 'sport up' the feel of Normal mode by turning on PSE, turning off Auto Start/Stop, and setting it as the Individual mode.