A PPI from a reputable independent shop will save you thousands in surprises. Also, that same independent shop will save you thousands down the road compared to the dealer. I've seen dealer techs that really take pride in their work and dealer techs that would make Jiffy Lube techs look like geniuses.

Are you going to a Porsche dealer for this?

FCP Euro has a water pump replacement kit for $308 for a 6 cylinder S model https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/por...e-9481060330kt

Any local shop (forget about a specialist, look for a reputable neighborhood shop) can replace a damn water pump. $4k for parts and labor even if you add a t-stat and some other bits and bobs is ridiculous.

 

We're going to a local Indie. Living far out in the rural, we are limited to garages that will work on anything exotic. Something is funny in your post because, AFAIK, the /S is 8 cylinder. Our /4 is a 6. Well, no matter, we're stuck with this and saying other places mean less expensive repairs is interesting but we have no access to such shops.

 

I just passed 20K miles.

 

Not quite sure if I fall in the "Alot" of money class but my 2012 Pana S has 83K miles on it. If its more than 8 hours drive I most likely will not take it but take one of my company cars to keep the miles off it. I also have several cars between my 818 spyder, my speedster, a 968, a Jeep Wrangler and my 997TT. It is a 2010 and only has 13K mikes on it. Contrastly my Harley ultra classic has over 100K miles in it so go figure. I simply spread the miles around but it's not because I don't love driving the Pana S. Dare I say I have had zero issues with it and temp fate.... too late.

Cheers, Mike

 

I've got 120xxx on mine and have done most of those same services. HPFP, Evap, (Haven't done my driver's side rear door lock actuator, but it's not working) , Cooling system, coil, and a couple other misc bits.

 

There is another user that just posted about that... https://rennlist.com/forums/panamera...-not-lock.html

Are the lock actuators a common failure point? He could use some guidance if you know what to look for (and me too if they fail commonly).

 

180 on my 2011 4s

 

89K Miles on a 2019 Panamera Turbo

 

now we’re talking! Have you put these miles on the car? How about a rundown of issues you have had along the way?

 

The water pump and thermostat are not difficult. Or find a guy in your local club that could assist. Find an experienced independent.

 

If the leaky weak point under the manifold is referring to the pipe with double o-rings that plugs into the back of the thermostat housing, I understand that one. I’m doing the thermostat housing upgrade and those o-ring are worn at 50,000 miles. The factory service manual says to remove the housing and pipe as a unit but that is impossible due to bolt access issues. The best you can do is loosen the pipe attachment bolts at the back of the motor (had to use a 12 point 8 mm box wrench on an e torx bolt) so the thermostat housing can be lifted and rotated enough to slip the pipe out. If the pipe had 1/4 inch less engagement in the thermostat housing there would be no problem. Clearly not designed for servicing. Also noticed they used grease on the o-rings which makes sense due to differential length change between the pipe and the engine during warm up. No mention of this grease in the service manual.

 

Always best practice to lubricate o-rings, whether specified or not.

 

 

Agree. They specify water based lubricant for cooling system O-rings but this application did not use that based on my observation. They should have noted that exception. If I were rushing I would have missed this. The dealer techs are probably aware.

 

I the reason you don't see many Panameras with super high mileage is two fold.

1. Many owners likely have multiple vehicles. When the weather is bad. I use my SUV.

2. The Porsche tax. On many old cars parts are cheap and you do not need things like dealer coding. On a Panamer with 100k+ miles, bad air shocks or a hybrid battery failure could exceed the cars value.