Panamara Base vs. Maserati Ghibli S
11-05-2018, 01:47 PM
#1
Panamara Base vs. Maserati Ghibli S
Anyone here either went from driving a Maserati Ghibli to a Panamera? Even if you haven't, I'd love to hear your thoughts on the two cars compared.
Currently I have as my daily driver a 2017 Maserati Ghibli S that I bought new for $68,000 total (that includes sales tax, tag, etc). When I bought it in the spring of 2017 I really loved the Panamera but never fully researched it since the base Panamera price seemed to be at least $100,000 (after sales tax, tag, etc.). Just didn't seem that paying $32,000 more made a lot of sense.
Fast forward a year and 1/2 and the Panamera itch is still alive and well and perhaps getting stronger. I bought the Ghibli but don't plan on keeping it past the 4 year warranty point and I'm also now considering if making a move between now and that point is something I should consider. It would be my first Porsche and after reading some of the discussions threads I'm wondering if getting a used 2017 base to start would be a good way to go with the hope of eventually landing in a 4S. I suppose a 2017 4S could be a doable option in the latter part of 2019 or 2020. I just state this as something I thought about but don't really want this thread to become a discussion about base vs. 4S.
Really hoping someone has some experience with both a Ghibli and the Panamera and if not I'd still love to hear everyone's thoughts on just how much of an upgrade the Panamera really is given a pretty substantial price difference compared to what I was able to get my Ghibli at.
Currently I have as my daily driver a 2017 Maserati Ghibli S that I bought new for $68,000 total (that includes sales tax, tag, etc). When I bought it in the spring of 2017 I really loved the Panamera but never fully researched it since the base Panamera price seemed to be at least $100,000 (after sales tax, tag, etc.). Just didn't seem that paying $32,000 more made a lot of sense.
Fast forward a year and 1/2 and the Panamera itch is still alive and well and perhaps getting stronger. I bought the Ghibli but don't plan on keeping it past the 4 year warranty point and I'm also now considering if making a move between now and that point is something I should consider. It would be my first Porsche and after reading some of the discussions threads I'm wondering if getting a used 2017 base to start would be a good way to go with the hope of eventually landing in a 4S. I suppose a 2017 4S could be a doable option in the latter part of 2019 or 2020. I just state this as something I thought about but don't really want this thread to become a discussion about base vs. 4S.
Really hoping someone has some experience with both a Ghibli and the Panamera and if not I'd still love to hear everyone's thoughts on just how much of an upgrade the Panamera really is given a pretty substantial price difference compared to what I was able to get my Ghibli at.
11-05-2018, 07:21 PM
#2
I had a 2014 Ghibli SQ4... great car.. quite reliable surprisingly for the 4 years I had it. I didn't load up on options, so the interior was pretty plain. The plastics are not as nice as the Porsches. The fit and finish is way behind as well. Beautiful exhaust note. The drive was OK... nothing special. It's a beautiful car, but starting to get a little dated as other cars start to copy its style cues.
How it compares to the Panamera (2018 4 E-hybrid) is hard as one is a ICE only vs a hybrid. Porsche interiors are wonderful (quality of materials and fit and finish). Sitting in the Porsche, you feel like you are sitting in a 911. In the Ghibli, it felt like a "normal" sedan. I got the PSE on my hybrid, so when I want to "play" I can get very good exhaust tones (lots of grabble and noise). Definitely a must buy.
In short, it is definitely an upgrade from a Ghibli to a Panamera.
How it compares to the Panamera (2018 4 E-hybrid) is hard as one is a ICE only vs a hybrid. Porsche interiors are wonderful (quality of materials and fit and finish). Sitting in the Porsche, you feel like you are sitting in a 911. In the Ghibli, it felt like a "normal" sedan. I got the PSE on my hybrid, so when I want to "play" I can get very good exhaust tones (lots of grabble and noise). Definitely a must buy.
In short, it is definitely an upgrade from a Ghibli to a Panamera.
11-05-2018, 07:51 PM
#3
I had a 2014 Ghibli SQ4... great car.. quite reliable surprisingly for the 4 years I had it. I didn't load up on options, so the interior was pretty plain. The plastics are not as nice as the Porsches. The fit and finish is way behind as well. Beautiful exhaust note. The drive was OK... nothing special. It's a beautiful car, but starting to get a little dated as other cars start to copy its style cues.
Sounds like Ike it’s a definite upgrade and you have no regrets. What I am struggling with and fortunately have time to figure out is do the Ghibli’s interior woes and items the Panamera excels at equate to justify what appears to be a $25,000 to $30,000 cost increase for me. To my surprise, my car insurance rate actually would go down $250 a year despite the Panamera replacement cost being much higher than the Ghibli.
Hoping to get some other opinions whether they come from previous Ghibli owners or elsewhere.
11-06-2018, 01:08 AM
#4
As Bosch already said, Panamera has way better material quality in the interior. I would also add i f that matters to you - Panamera is much larger car than Ghibli. Quattroporte is comparable to Panamera, Ghibli is smaller. That is for me very much of a problem as I don't have enough space in Ghibli. I am 190cm (6,25") and when I adjust driving seat to my needs, in the back not even a kid can seat.
11-06-2018, 01:57 AM
#5
Yes the Panamera definitely is a larger car; however, it surprising lacks storage space. The trunk, for a hatchback, is small. The interior storage compartments are tiny compared to the Ghibli. The Porsche feels special inside, while the Ghibli was just ok. Maybe I’ll get bored with the Panamera interior as time goes on, but the Ghibli never feel wow from the start. I still miss the exhaust note at a cold start up.
11-06-2018, 07:49 AM
#6
As Bosch already said, Panamera has way better material quality in the interior. I would also add i f that matters to you - Panamera is much larger car than Ghibli. Quattroporte is comparable to Panamera, Ghibli is smaller. That is for me very much of a problem as I don't have enough space in Ghibli. I am 190cm (6,25") and when I adjust driving seat to my needs, in the back not even a kid can seat.
11-06-2018, 08:03 AM
#7
As far as the exhaust note goes, yes I like it but it too over time has started to not seem as important and I know my wife wouldn’t mind if the car didn’t start so loud in the garage each morning when I leave at 6 am (my neighbors too).
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11-07-2018, 12:15 AM
#8
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The Panamera 4 E-Hybrid is great for starting quietly in electric-only mode (E-Power) but still having oodles of power when you need it (462 hp) -- fabulous driving car. I also like leaving and coming home into my neighborhood quietly, as well as at work. You can get a base 4 E-Hybrid new for probably around USD $93k if you shop around, with no add-on options (might have to be a special order) -- but it's already loaded with tons of stuff standard. Remember that you get $6700 off in federal tax credit, plus whatever your state might offer in rebates (my state offers an additional $1000 off on plug-in hybrids). As a 2018 Pan4 E-Hybrid ST owner, I'd never again consider an ICE-only Panamera (and I used to own one, very happily).
12-15-2018, 08:49 AM
#9
Anyone here either went from driving a Maserati Ghibli to a Panamera? Even if you haven't, I'd love to hear your thoughts on the two cars compared.
Currently I have as my daily driver a 2017 Maserati Ghibli S that I bought new for $68,000 total (that includes sales tax, tag, etc). When I bought it in the spring of 2017 I really loved the Panamera but never fully researched it since the base Panamera price seemed to be at least $100,000 (after sales tax, tag, etc.). Just didn't seem that paying $32,000 more made a lot of sense.
Fast forward a year and 1/2 and the Panamera itch is still alive and well and perhaps getting stronger. I bought the Ghibli but don't plan on keeping it past the 4 year warranty point and I'm also now considering if making a move between now and that point is something I should consider. It would be my first Porsche and after reading some of the discussions threads I'm wondering if getting a used 2017 base to start would be a good way to go with the hope of eventually landing in a 4S. I suppose a 2017 4S could be a doable option in the latter part of 2019 or 2020. I just state this as something I thought about but don't really want this thread to become a discussion about base vs. 4S.
Really hoping someone has some experience with both a Ghibli and the Panamera and if not I'd still love to hear everyone's thoughts on just how much of an upgrade the Panamera really is given a pretty substantial price difference compared to what I was able to get my Ghibli at.
Currently I have as my daily driver a 2017 Maserati Ghibli S that I bought new for $68,000 total (that includes sales tax, tag, etc). When I bought it in the spring of 2017 I really loved the Panamera but never fully researched it since the base Panamera price seemed to be at least $100,000 (after sales tax, tag, etc.). Just didn't seem that paying $32,000 more made a lot of sense.
Fast forward a year and 1/2 and the Panamera itch is still alive and well and perhaps getting stronger. I bought the Ghibli but don't plan on keeping it past the 4 year warranty point and I'm also now considering if making a move between now and that point is something I should consider. It would be my first Porsche and after reading some of the discussions threads I'm wondering if getting a used 2017 base to start would be a good way to go with the hope of eventually landing in a 4S. I suppose a 2017 4S could be a doable option in the latter part of 2019 or 2020. I just state this as something I thought about but don't really want this thread to become a discussion about base vs. 4S.
Really hoping someone has some experience with both a Ghibli and the Panamera and if not I'd still love to hear everyone's thoughts on just how much of an upgrade the Panamera really is given a pretty substantial price difference compared to what I was able to get my Ghibli at.
Every extra dollar it cost to clearly upgrade from the Ghibli to the Panamera 4S was worth it. . . By a long shot. Literally, the ONLY thing I miss or that the Ghibli did better than the Panamera 4S was it had auto start from the remote. Everything else, including the exhaust note if you get th sport pipes is better IMO. The quality and refinement between the two vehicles is not even arguably comparable.
I’ll always believe that the Ghibli exterior look is one off the most beautiful 4 door exterior is out there, but my 4S has me even questioning that thinking and I’m thoroughly happy to have made the switch.
12-17-2018, 12:04 AM
#10
Beautiful combo! Did you build it or was it on the lot?
I am not trying to be mean or rude so don't take it the wrong way. The exterior of the Maserati looks like an Infiniti and the interior looks like a Chrysler to me.
I am not trying to be mean or rude so don't take it the wrong way. The exterior of the Maserati looks like an Infiniti and the interior looks like a Chrysler to me.
12-17-2018, 09:24 AM
#11
I’ll agree that the interior looked and felt like a Chrysler to me as well.
12-17-2018, 10:07 AM
#12
While the Maserati isn't the Grand Tourismo, the Ghibli is miles better in chassis design than anything Infiniti has offered.
12-17-2018, 04:04 PM
#13
Jaguar, Land Rover and Bentley are about the only non-mega-exotic that have interiors on part with Porsche. I don't mind BMW and Benz but to me they look and feel just short from a build quality and feel to the Porsche.
12-17-2018, 10:30 PM
#14
Well technically it uses the same parts and systems as many Dodge/Chrysler as part of FCA, so there is a reason you feel this way! I think the Mazzi, they look really good, but they really just don't do anything better than any number of other choices in cars, most of which cost less.....
Jaguar, Land Rover and Bentley are about the only non-mega-exotic that have interiors on part with Porsche. I don't mind BMW and Benz but to me they look and feel just short from a build quality and feel to the Porsche.
Jaguar, Land Rover and Bentley are about the only non-mega-exotic that have interiors on part with Porsche. I don't mind BMW and Benz but to me they look and feel just short from a build quality and feel to the Porsche.
BMW is BMW. Not known for super high quality materials or interior but it's still better than Jaguar for sure. My last car before my 971 Panamera was a 2015 650I GC. I never felt that the interior was inferior to the Panamera. Very close if not equal. Driving experience is another story.
As far as Merccedes, it really depends on the model. The modern day W222 S class Mercedes is now on par with Bentley. I've owned 4 W216 & W221 550s & 63s from 2008 to 2012 and I have to say their quality was near that of my Bentley. The current generation 222 550 & 63s are really on the next level as far as interior quality and material.
12-23-2018, 05:43 AM
#15
When I looked at Panamera, I was also looking at the grand turismo sport, and can say the one thing I loved form the maserati, was the ferrari exhaust note.
Other than that, interior looked dated,
Other than that, interior looked dated,