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Old 07-25-2018, 04:55 PM
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I thought I would collect this for ease of use by forum members. Hope it helps with questions like 'when should I do this', or what kind of maintenance at xxxx miles.

All of the below pertains only to B markets. Porsche organizes countries it sells its cars to, into markets, classified as A, B, or C. USA falls into the B market category, and since I reside there, below info will be only for B markets. If you live in other market, I am sure you can approximate durations, etc, but from what I see, there is language stating countries with leaded fuel do their maintenance on intervals that are shorter than in B markets. So please go check your market or take the info as an approximation only.

Also, I have Panamera Turbo, so these intervals are for this model. Most models follow same if not very similar schedule though.



B market countries:
Armenia, Australia, Bahrain, Brunei, Bulgaria, Estonia, French Polynesia, GhanaIndonesia, Israel, Japan, Jordan, Canada, Kazakhstan, Qatar, KuwaitLatvia, Lebanon, Lithuania, Malaysia, Moldova, New Caledonia, New Zealand, Oman, Philippines, Reunion, Romania, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Singapore, Sri Lanka, South Korea, SyriaTaiwan, Thailand, Turkey, Ukraine, USA, UAE (Abu Dhabi, Dubai), Vietnam, Belarus, Cyprus.




[SIZE="4"]PANAMERA 970:[/SIZE]

OIL CHANGE SERVICE:
  • Oil & Filter Change - Every 15,000 km or 10,000 mi, or 1 year - ~9 quarts (Panamera V8)
    • Whichever comes first - 1 year, or distance
  • Oil & Filter Change - Every 10,000 km or 6,000 mi, in countries with leaded fuel


INTERMEDIATE MAINTENANCE:
  • Every 30,000 km or 20,000 miles
    • Change engine oil & filter
    • Windscreen wiper/washer system, headlight cleaning system: check operation and nozzle.
    • Tires and spare wheel: check tire pressure
    • Diagnostic system: read out fault memory; reset intermediate maintenance interval
    • Read out out soot mass in particle filter (Diesel version only)
    • Particle filter: replace filter element
    • Check wiper blades
    • All headlights: check adjustment
    • Battery vent hose: check condition
    • Replace fuel filter (Diesel version only)
    • Tires and spare wheel: check condition
    • Brake lines: visual inspection for damage, routing and corrosion
    • Brake hoses: visual inspection for damage and routing
    • Brake system: visual inspection of brake pads, brake discs for wear (not removing wheels)
    • Drive shafts: visual inspection of the boots for leaks and damage
    • Radiators and air intakes: visual inspection for external contamination and blockage
    • Coolant: check level and antifreeze
    • Windscreen wiper/washer system: check fluid level; check window cleaner and antifreeze, depending on the season
    • PDCC and power steering: check fluid level
    • Test Drive & check function: Remote control, front seats, electric parking and foot brakes (also actuation travel), engine, steering, transmission, ParkAssist, cruise control, PSM switch, heating, air conditioning and instruments
    • Any other oils, fluids: visual inspection for leaks


REGULAR MAINTENANCE:
  • Every 60,000 km or 40,000 miles
  • If mileage for regular maintenance not reached, it must be done after 4, 8, 12, etc years
    • Change engine oil & filter
    • Windscreen wiper/washer system, headlight cleaning system
    • Horn: check operation
    • Tires and spare wheel: check tire pressure
    • Diagnostic system: read out fault memory; reset regular maintenance interval
    • Seat belts: check operation and condition
    • Particle filter: replace filter element
    • Check wiper blades
    • All headlights: check adjustment
    • Trailer hitch: check function
    • Battery vent hose: check condition
    • Tires and spare wheel: check condition
    • Brake system: visual inspection of brake pads and brake discs for wear
    • Brake hoses: visual inspection for damage and routing
    • Radiators and air intakes: visual inspection for external contamination and blockage
    • Underbody panels: visual inspection for completeness, secure installation and damage
    • Replace fuel filter (diesel version only)
    • All other fluids visual inspection for leaks
    • Brake lines: visual inspection for damage, routing and corrosion
    • Steering gear: visual inspection of bellows for damage
    • Tie rod joints: check the play and dust boots
    • Drive shafts: visual inspection of the boots for leaks and damage
    • Axle joints: check the play and visually inspect the dust boots for damage
    • Exhaust system: visual inspection for leaks and damage, check engine mount
    • Fuel lines and connections: visual inspection (in visible area)
    • Coolant: check level and antifreeze
    • Windscreen wiper/washer system: check fluid level; check window cleaner and antifreeze, depending on the season
    • PDCC and power steering: check fluid level
    • Test drive & check function: Remote control, front seats, electric parking and foot brakes (also actuation travel), engine, steering, transmission, ParkAssist, cruise control, PSM switch, heating, air conditioning and instruments
    • Oils, fluids: visual inspection for leaks


ADDITIONAL MAINTENANCE EVERY 2 YEARS:
  • Change oil & filter following oil & filter change schedule maintenance
  • Change brake fluid (use only original Porsche brake fluid)
  • Tire sealing compound: check use-by date and replace if necessary
  • File Condition Report for long-life guarantee


ADDITIONAL MAINTENANCE EVERY 4 YEARS:
  • Change oil & filter following oil & filter change schedule maintenance
  • Replace tire sealing compound


ADDITIONAL MAINTENANCE FOR SPARK PLUGS:
  • V6 - Replace every 60,000 km or 40,000 miles or every 4 years
  • V8 S - Replace every 45,000km or 30,000mi or every 4 years
  • GTS - Replace every 60,000km or 40,000mi or every 4 years
  • Turbo - Replace every 45,000km or 30,000mi or every 4 years
  • V8 S E-Hybrid - Replace every 60,000km or 40,000mi or every 4 years


ADDITIONAL MAINTENANCE FOR C MARKETS ONLY:
  • Every 90,000Km/54,000Miles
  • Not putting in details, may do later if really needed.


ADDITIONAL MAINTENANCE EVERY 120,000km or 80,000 miles:
  • For markets A & B
  • Do every 120,000km or 80,000 miles or every 6 years
    • Change oil & filter following oil & filter change schedule maintenance
    • Air cleaner: replace filter element


ADDITIONAL MAINTENANCE EVERY 180,000km or 120,000 miles:
  • For markets A & B
  • Do every 180,000km or 120,000 miles or every 12 years
    • Change oil & filter following oil & filter change schedule maintenance
    • All-wheel final drive: change oil
    • Rear final drive: change oil


Other noteworthy remarks from reviewing the maintenance schedule:
- PDCC reservoir change replacement recommended only for C markets (non USA), at 90k km or 54k miles, then again at 240k km or 144k miles or after 16 years
- PDK transmission oil change mentioned only for B markets (Panamera S E-hybrid, Panamera S hybrid only), at 90k km or 54k miles, then again at 240k km or 144k miles or after 16 years.



I will be checking the maintenance schedule book inside the car to compare. If there are differences, I can chime in.
This is really surprising. There are many places where PDK, PDCC reservoir is called for after 60k. I do not see that in the FSM.
Some food for thought.

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I came across this dealer checklist which I guess they can supply to customers last week. (attached)
It does mention replacing the PDCC reservoir, PDK fluid and supercharger belt (S hybrid) at 60K.
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Im sure if done, wont hurt the car. I did see PDCC res. change at 60k for thr s hybrid and e hybrid models.
Also, C market countries (non USA) do this at 54k miles. The non V8 models of Panamera do not have PDK as standard, and have different transmission, which does have maintenance schedule different from PDK.

I noticed from Cayenne that they modify service sometimes.
Initially stated coolant is sealed and does not require changing, few years later they said change every 4 years.
PDCC res is on my list in next month or two.




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I came across this dealer checklist which I guess they can supply to customers last week. (attached)
It does mention replacing the PDCC reservoir, PDK fluid and supercharger belt (S hybrid) at 60K.
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and forgot to mention, the maintenance booklet supplied with the car recommended the PDK service at 60k as well. I guess the only other choice in the 970 generation besides the PDK was a 6 speed manual in some markets, and the 8 speed tiptronic on the S hydrid. Does the second generation 971 only come in one flavor - the 8 speed PDK?
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From what I saw, 970 generation of Panamera was available in following flavors:
- Tiptronic transmission (V6 models standard, hybrid models)
- PDK 7 gear transmission
- Manual transmission - in some markets and models only

I decided to go on the following schedule:
  • PDK transmission fluid change (FFL3) - service manual does not call for at all
    • I will do change every 60k miles (fluid only), and fluid + pan/filter change every 120k miles
      • Doing so because of info I gathered from other sites/forums, where PDK was analyzed vs used oil, not necessary to replace pan/filter after 60k miles
  • Front final drive fluid change (Shell TF0951) - service manual calls for change at 120k miles
    • I will do every 60k miles using Mobil Delvac 1 synthetic gear oil 75W-90
  • Rear differential fluid change (GL-5 gear oil) - service manual calls for change at 120k miles
    • I will do every 60k miles using Mobil Delvac 1 synthetic gear oil 75W-90
  • For non USA markets, I would follow the 60k mile/100,000km schedule as service manual calls for similar intervals in non USA markets


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and forgot to mention, the maintenance booklet supplied with the car recommended the PDK service at 60k as well. I guess the only other choice in the 970 generation besides the PDK was a 6 speed manual in some markets, and the 8 speed tiptronic on the S hydrid. Does the second generation 971 only come in one flavor - the 8 speed PDK?
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Originally Posted by ciaka View Post
From what I saw, 970 generation of Panamera was available in following flavors:
- Tiptronic transmission (V6 models standard, hybrid models)
- PDK 7 gear transmission
- Manual transmission - in some markets and models only

I
Beating a dead horse.......
Looking further into the history of my new Panamera.......it's a lot easier then learning about 50 years of the 911 - which I could never learn!

So what I've learned, the Panamera debuted in 2010 with a single drive train (V8 with 7 speed PDK) with the S, 4S and Turbo models.

In 2011, the V6 was added with the introduction of the base and P4 models. With that, the manual transmission became available only in the base and S RWD models. The new P4 offered only the PDK tranny as of course the 4 wheel drive requires it.

Finally, for 2012 the Turbo S, S-hybrid, and diesel were added to the lineup, the latter two utilizing the 8-speed Tiptronic S transmission which were the only two Panamera models it was offered in.

(I haven't research the engine/transmission combos for the 970.2 years...I assuming probably the same as 970.1)

EDIT: the 970.2 series (2014-2016 models) dropped the manual transmission, only offering the 7-speed PDK in most models, with the Tiptronic as the sole choice in the hybrid and diesels.

The second generation 971 of courses simplifies the transmission saga as its the 8 speed PDK, and that's it.

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Interesting issue on the A,B,C markets.

I had to have my instrument cluster replaced due to failed oil temp gauge last year (under warranty). Noticed that the oil change interval after the next oil change was set to 15,000 miles (A market??). The dealership just recoded the cluster this past week while I was in for another non-related issues to market B. All intervals are now set as they should be for a USA market vehicle (match the table above).

Just a reminder to anyone who has a cluster replaced -- make sure the market is coded correctly - it appears "A" market is the default on a new cluster.

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