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Old 02-13-2018, 02:34 PM
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I have a brand new Panamera Hybrid 4e. The problem is that it takes very long (up to 10 minutes) to switch from e.g. Hybrid Auto modus to the e-power modus (even if the battery is fully charged). Any ideas? Have others similar problems?
Old 02-13-2018, 06:01 PM
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rh8100, I am by no means an expert, but I have read on other forums that others believe that when you start in petro mode with a running engine, the car will not revert to e-power until the engine is heated up to an appropriate temperature. Not sure what that temp is, but just what I read. I just ordered my E-Hybrid in the USA and have a while to wait to get it, but others have mentioned this.
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Is it possible to just start in E-power mode?
Old 02-14-2018, 04:40 AM
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Pana TJ, thanks. You are quite right. When the engine is heated up (ca 80 centigrades), I can switch from sport / sport + mode to e-power by pressing the relevant button, and it switches immediately. However, when I drive in Hybrid-Auto mode, it takes ca 5 to 10 minus before the engine switches to e-power mode. This is not really a big problem, but it is annoying - normally, you would drive in "hybrid-auto" mode and switch to e-pwer when you are closer to the city center. Then it simply takes too long before the e-engine goes on. This notwithstanding, the Panamera Hybrid is a great car.
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Jason Zhang, thanks. Yes, the car always starts in E-power mode, but you can immediately switch to Hybrid-auto, sport or sport+ mode.
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Hi RH - as has been said, once the engine comes on then it needs to complete its warm-up. So either you drive ePower all the way or accept that at some point in the journey if in Hybrid mode or you bury the throttle, the engine will come on for 5 minutes. Even in EPower the engine will be on at this point.
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ariches01, thanks for this. It is exactly as you have described. Still a bit annoying that one cannot immediately switch to e-power even if the battery is full.
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I think it still prioritises the electric engine in e-mode even if the engine is warming up, so I suspect your MPG is still pretty good for the 5 min warm-up cycle.
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Originally Posted by rh8100
ariches01, thanks for this. It is exactly as you have described. Still a bit annoying that one cannot immediately switch to e-power even if the battery is full.
it is obviously a safety feature to protect a cold engine from turning off and on and, as such, I do not recommend this but if you stop the car and turn off the engine and ignition and then turn it on again the petrol engine will stay off and you’ll be back on e-power again.
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Thanks, ariches01, yes turning off the engine and turning the ignition on brings one back to e-power. I wonder why Porsche did not build into the cooling water radiator a theromostat that is powered by the battery. In that case, after turning on the ignition, the cooling water would be permanently held at the appropriate temperature (it is I believe 90 centigrades) and one could switch from engine to e-power at any time without waiting for the engine to warm up. As I said, this is not a real problem, the Panamera 43 Hybrid is a fantastic car.
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If your vehicle is not starting in e-power mode, something is not right



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