Does that number include the "S" as well as the non-S? We're warped here in Cali. You see the sales number on a car like that, and it doesn't correlate to what you see. Then you realize that 80% of them are here, lol.

The Sport Turismo is just so damn sexy. If depreciation was my main concern, I'd go buy a 3 year old Subaru Outback.

 

 

Whin I bought my ST I assumed it would be a depreciation dog unlike my RS cars. Did not care. I love the thing and it will have adventures...........

 

Loaded on the boat a week ago. Expected to arrive in San Diego sometime in mid-July. Another step closer!

 

I'm actually wondering if my Pan4 ST E-Hybrid won't go down much more slowly in value in the next couple of years than a normal Panamera sedan.

 

Surprised there have not been more review comparisons between the ST and the AMG, but R&T finally did here:

https://www.motortrendondemand.com/d...mo/0_bb8u2kjv/

I purchased an E63 s wagon, and it is an amazing car, but the design is plagued by a mis-fire problem that is lighting up CELs in distressingly large numbers and no one at MBUSA (much less the dealer) knows what the problem is. My CEL came on after 250 miles, but hasn't returned since being shut off. MBUSA's only response is to buy back cars from those who complain the loudest.

And so the debate rages on.

 

Any amethyst deliveries? Or any cars with marsala interior? Speccing mine later this week and thinking of this exterior/interior colour combo.

 

Given that the cars on cars.com seem to be sitting and sitting, with more presumably unsold supply arriving over time, when will it become realistic that dealers will start accepting low ball offers? Will 4S's with stickers of $120k sell for $90k? At some point they have to move this metal, no?

 

My car sticker for $113k with 4 thousand miles they offered $83k on trade. $30k below sticker.These people who bought $190-200K turbos will lose 50-60K as soon as it left the lot.

 

Wow that seems like a great deal you got. Wondering - where'd those 4000 miles come from? Dealer demo?

 

 

Wow. You got a dealer to drop $30k from sticker on a new car - that seems pretty amazing. You're either the worlds best negotiator or that was one flexible/desperate dealer! Good for you. Maybe I'll start making low ball offers on in-stock 4S's...

 

Uh, he paid MSRP he's clearly saying the depreciation on the 4,000 miles he drove was $30,000...

 

DOH. Total reading comprehension fail on my part.

 

I just posted a report of my cross-country USA trip in my 2018 Sport Turismo as a new thread at https://rennlist.com/forums/panamera...l#post15276301