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Tucker TT is STO, SCCA GT2 class is dominated by the GT3 Cup when the Nissan breaks.
Eddie ran a 2:15 on slicks on a heavily modified 3.8RS, on what has been the best conditions at Sebring in a while, the massive amount of rubber laid down during the biggest PCA event in the nation, and cold unusual Florida weather. Everybody dropped their personal best laps that weekend.
The same Eddie boy, with the same cheater GT3 RS 3.8 on a typical Florida Spring day with PBOC and Hoosier R6 could not break under 2:22 with a lame iPhone timer.
As mentioned, with modifications the sky is the limit, and even a Celica is faster than a Vette or GT3.
I can disclose the mods in Eddie's RS 3.8, but RL will run out of space.
Eddie ran a 2:15 on slicks on a heavily modified 3.8RS, on what has been the best conditions at Sebring in a while, the massive amount of rubber laid down during the biggest PCA event in the nation, and cold unusual Florida weather. Everybody dropped their personal best laps that weekend.
The same Eddie boy, with the same cheater GT3 RS 3.8 on a typical Florida Spring day with PBOC and Hoosier R6 could not break under 2:22 with a lame iPhone timer.
As mentioned, with modifications the sky is the limit, and even a Celica is faster than a Vette or GT3.
I can disclose the mods in Eddie's RS 3.8, but RL will run out of space.
You're on Crack ..... please !!!
Car had:
Toe links
Upper control arms
thrust arm bushing
headers and exhaust
gurney and dive planes.
FYI - After the 12hours is the fastest Sebring, when it doesn't rain. Cup cars beat their own times after the 12hs.... 3.6 cups running 2;10 with passenger.
On the PBOC event under 95F with narrow hoosiers I ran multiples 18.5 ....
Name a car close to mine in mods .... than ran close to it... Not even LSD or monoballs.
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Because I have always had bad luck with any Chevy.
But like you I agree that they have made big quality improvements across the board. I like the new Caddy's with RWD as well fro street cars.
On paper the Corvette has all the right stuff, just like the GT3, except its manual and has half the price is not great looking and probably is less fun to drive. Sound like a nice beater to me for the money, if for no other reason to find out how long it will last at Sebring. Only one way to fund out....
But like you I agree that they have made big quality improvements across the board. I like the new Caddy's with RWD as well fro street cars.
On paper the Corvette has all the right stuff, just like the GT3, except its manual and has half the price is not great looking and probably is less fun to drive. Sound like a nice beater to me for the money, if for no other reason to find out how long it will last at Sebring. Only one way to fund out....
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I don't know of any street P-cars running anywhere close to my 2:22 laptime at COTA with my ZR1 (100% stock down to paper filter and stock alignment besides brake fluid and slicks). With race seats, harnesses, and proper alignment now for the slicks, I plan to break 2:20 if I can get a clean lap at the upcoming BMWCCA track weekend at COTA. For fast, the Vette is nearly unbeatable for the money. Gen IV Viper ACR and Gen V are other contenders.
If you don't care about a few seconds, then the Vette probably isn't for you. I personally care about a few seconds of laptime. For those that don't, then the P-car will certainly provide more tactile enjoyment and pleasure, but you're going to pay for it.
If you don't care about a few seconds, then the Vette probably isn't for you. I personally care about a few seconds of laptime. For those that don't, then the P-car will certainly provide more tactile enjoyment and pleasure, but you're going to pay for it.
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Because I have always had bad luck with any Chevy.
But like you I agree that they have made big quality improvements across the board. I like the new Caddy's with RWD as well fro street cars.
On paper the Corvette has all the right stuff, just like the GT3, except its manual and has half the price is not great looking and probably is less fun to drive. Sound like a nice beater to me for the money, if for no other reason to find out how long it will last at Sebring. Only one way to fund out....
But like you I agree that they have made big quality improvements across the board. I like the new Caddy's with RWD as well fro street cars.
On paper the Corvette has all the right stuff, just like the GT3, except its manual and has half the price is not great looking and probably is less fun to drive. Sound like a nice beater to me for the money, if for no other reason to find out how long it will last at Sebring. Only one way to fund out....
I still drive a P car.
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Lightly used ZR1 are in the mid 70s to mid 80s, essentially half the price of a 3.8RS, nowhere near the same price point.
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You're on Crack ..... please !!!
Car had:
Toe links
Upper control arms
thrust arm bushing
headers and exhaust
gurney and dive planes.
FYI - After the 12hours is the fastest Sebring, when it doesn't rain. Cup cars beat their own times after the 12hs.... 3.6 cups running 2;10 with passenger.
On the PBOC event under 95F with narrow hoosiers I ran multiples 18.5 ....
Name a car close to mine in mods .... than ran close to it... Not even LSD or monoballs.
Car had:
Toe links
Upper control arms
thrust arm bushing
headers and exhaust
gurney and dive planes.
FYI - After the 12hours is the fastest Sebring, when it doesn't rain. Cup cars beat their own times after the 12hs.... 3.6 cups running 2;10 with passenger.
On the PBOC event under 95F with narrow hoosiers I ran multiples 18.5 ....
Name a car close to mine in mods .... than ran close to it... Not even LSD or monoballs.
Let me remind you of the level of cheating in your RS:
- Tuned ECU
- Headers
- No Cats
- No side mufflers
- Lightweight 18" wheels
- Monoballs
- Metal bushings
- Aftermarket Aero
- 100+ lbs reduced over stock GT3 RS 3.8
- dyno runs stronger than my bone stock 430 Scuderia rated at 503Hp by Fiat.
- Shorter gearing (by running short rear tires)
With modifications, the sky is the limit.
Pick-up a bone stock (bone stock means no parts other than installed by VW at the factory), I will pick-up a T1 C6 Vette, Hoosiers on both cars, and I will run circles around you, guaranteed, bet on it.
With modifications, a Celica is faster than a GT3 and a Vette.
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Aero beetles run faster, we ran 2:26/7 on RA1, so certainly 2:21/22 just saying..
But again, who cares about a few seconds; Its about driving pleasure and durability. I don't expect the Corvette to do well at either but for $60K one has to try it out, or learn to left foot brake....
But again, who cares about a few seconds; Its about driving pleasure and durability. I don't expect the Corvette to do well at either but for $60K one has to try it out, or learn to left foot brake....
2:21-2:22 on stock GT3 RS 3.8 on slicks, feasible, but still slower than a C6 carrying extra weight and no wings on slicks.
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Video proof of the 95 degrees 2:18??? Bulldump
Let me remind you of the level of cheating in your RS:
- Tuned ECU
- Headers
- No Cats
- No side mufflers
- Lightweight 18" wheels
- Monoballs
- Metal bushings
- Aftermarket Aero
- 100+ lbs reduced over stock GT3 RS 3.8
- dyno runs stronger than my bone stock 430 Scuderia rated at 503Hp by Fiat.
- Shorter gearing (by running short rear tires)
With modifications, the sky is the limit.
Pick-up a bone stock (bone stock means no parts other than installed by VW at the factory), I will pick-up a T1 C6 Vette, Hoosiers on both cars, and I will run circles around you, guaranteed, bet on it.
With modifications, a Celica is faster than a GT3 and a Vette.
Let me remind you of the level of cheating in your RS:
- Tuned ECU
- Headers
- No Cats
- No side mufflers
- Lightweight 18" wheels
- Monoballs
- Metal bushings
- Aftermarket Aero
- 100+ lbs reduced over stock GT3 RS 3.8
- dyno runs stronger than my bone stock 430 Scuderia rated at 503Hp by Fiat.
- Shorter gearing (by running short rear tires)
With modifications, the sky is the limit.
Pick-up a bone stock (bone stock means no parts other than installed by VW at the factory), I will pick-up a T1 C6 Vette, Hoosiers on both cars, and I will run circles around you, guaranteed, bet on it.
With modifications, a Celica is faster than a GT3 and a Vette.
No Monoballs, or metal bushings. No weight reduction, as a matter of fact, heavier with the addition of the roll bar and harness.
No short gearing.
About the dyno, There is nothing I can do if Ferrari Ponies are not the same as Porsche Ponies
Do you really want to talk about dyno ???
I will do the same times with a stock car on the same tires, I know what I have left ... so a bone stock RS can do 15s, no problem.
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It also ran 7:19 at the Nurburgring while your 4.0RS $275k Aero Beetle ran 8 seconds slower.
And at Laguna Seca, it laps in 1:33 while the 3.8RS laps 3 seconds slower.
All this performance for $75k in the used market.
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You were there ... you saw it, even Clarke was there... stop with the pipe....
No Monoballs, or metal bushings. No weight reduction, as a matter of fact, heavier with the addition of the roll bar and harness.
No short gearing.
About the dyno, There is nothing I can do if Ferrari Ponies are not the same as Porsche Ponies
Do you really want to talk about dyno ???
I will do the same times with a stock car on the same tires, I know what I have left ... so a bone stock RS can do 15s, no problem.
No Monoballs, or metal bushings. No weight reduction, as a matter of fact, heavier with the addition of the roll bar and harness.
No short gearing.
About the dyno, There is nothing I can do if Ferrari Ponies are not the same as Porsche Ponies
Do you really want to talk about dyno ???
I will do the same times with a stock car on the same tires, I know what I have left ... so a bone stock RS can do 15s, no problem.
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The TT1 regional records at Road Atlanta and VIR and Sebring are VERY strong, you have no idea what you are talking about.
Most of DE cup couldn't zip Aquilante's driving suit. The only two that could be mentioned in the same sentence are Peter and Eddie and I still be pressed to call them on the same level.
Tucker TT is STO, SCCA GT2 class is dominated by the GT3 Cup when the Nissan breaks.
Eddie ran a 2:15 on slicks on a heavily modified 3.8RS, on what has been the best conditions at Sebring in a while, the massive amount of rubber laid down during the biggest PCA event in the nation, and cold unusual Florida weather. Everybody dropped their personal best laps that weekend.
The same Eddie boy, with the same cheater GT3 RS 3.8 on a typical Florida Spring day with PBOC and Hoosier R6 could not break under 2:22 with a lame iPhone timer.
As mentioned, with modifications the sky is the limit, and even a Celica is faster than a Vette or GT3.
I can disclose the mods in Eddie's RS 3.8, but RL will run out of space.
Eddie ran a 2:15 on slicks on a heavily modified 3.8RS, on what has been the best conditions at Sebring in a while, the massive amount of rubber laid down during the biggest PCA event in the nation, and cold unusual Florida weather. Everybody dropped their personal best laps that weekend.
The same Eddie boy, with the same cheater GT3 RS 3.8 on a typical Florida Spring day with PBOC and Hoosier R6 could not break under 2:22 with a lame iPhone timer.
As mentioned, with modifications the sky is the limit, and even a Celica is faster than a Vette or GT3.
I can disclose the mods in Eddie's RS 3.8, but RL will run out of space.
I don't know of any street P-cars running anywhere close to my 2:22 laptime at COTA with my ZR1 (100% stock down to paper filter and stock alignment besides brake fluid and slicks). With race seats, harnesses, and proper alignment now for the slicks, I plan to break 2:20 if I can get a clean lap at the upcoming BMWCCA track weekend at COTA. For fast, the Vette is nearly unbeatable for the money. Gen IV Viper ACR and Gen V are other contenders.
If you don't care about a few seconds, then the Vette probably isn't for you. I personally care about a few seconds of laptime. For those that don't, then the P-car will certainly provide more tactile enjoyment and pleasure, but you're going to pay for it.
If you don't care about a few seconds, then the Vette probably isn't for you. I personally care about a few seconds of laptime. For those that don't, then the P-car will certainly provide more tactile enjoyment and pleasure, but you're going to pay for it.
Slicks do not count as stock. Your car stock makes significantly more hp than my tuned Turbo car, so no cookies for you in that department.