Anyone driving a C6 Vette ?
02-21-2012, 12:32 PM
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02-21-2012, 01:08 PM
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02-21-2012, 01:11 PM
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on the serious note if the C5 is such a great car why do some 951 guys go through the pain of swapping a LS engine in their 951's? average cost of a ls swap 25-30k you can buy a used c5 z06 for that much
here a Z06 with mods for 20k
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb...829536420.html
and 45k for a 07 C6 Z06
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac...861885833.html
here a Z06 with mods for 20k
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb...829536420.html
and 45k for a 07 C6 Z06
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac...861885833.html
02-21-2012, 01:35 PM
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BAWWAHAHAHAHAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!
That is some funny stuff right there! I better order a double batch of those pills!
It really just depends what you want.
If you require 500+ rwhp and reliability a 951 is just not feasible.
I looked very seriously at doing a LS conversion 951...... unfortunately short of transplanting everything (trans/diff/axles) I don't see any realistic durability can be achieved at 500+
That is some funny stuff right there! I better order a double batch of those pills!
It really just depends what you want.
If you require 500+ rwhp and reliability a 951 is just not feasible.
I looked very seriously at doing a LS conversion 951...... unfortunately short of transplanting everything (trans/diff/axles) I don't see any realistic durability can be achieved at 500+
02-21-2012, 03:20 PM
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[QUOTE=lart951;9295889]on the serious note if the C5 is such a great car why do some 951 guys go through the pain of swapping a LS engine in their 951's? average cost of a ls swap 25-30k you can buy a used c5 z06 for that much
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25-30k? Since when?
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25-30k? Since when?
02-21-2012, 03:30 PM
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[quote=pkt1213;9296284][QUOTE=lart951;9295889]on the serious note if the C5 is such a great car why do some 951 guys go through the pain of swapping a LS engine in their 951's? average cost of a ls swap 25-30k you can buy a used c5 z06 for that much
25-30k? Since when?
You mean is it more?
25-30k? Since when?
02-21-2012, 03:45 PM
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[quote=pkt1213;9296284][QUOTE=lart951;9295889]on the serious note if the C5 is such a great car why do some 951 guys go through the pain of swapping a LS engine in their 951's? average cost of a ls swap 25-30k you can buy a used c5 z06 for that much
25-30k? Since when?
Not everyone can do the swap in their own garage; some people buy new crate engines and then have to take it to shops that charge $85-125 an hour for labor to do a swap.
Its pretty easy to get up to 30k at a high end shop... In fact, im pretty sure most people on rennlist who have a V8 in their 944 did it themselves.
25-30k? Since when?
Its pretty easy to get up to 30k at a high end shop... In fact, im pretty sure most people on rennlist who have a V8 in their 944 did it themselves.
02-21-2012, 05:05 PM
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I had a shop do my swap and I paid *nowhere* near $25-30k for it. I didn't even pay half of that and when you take into account the amount I recouped by selling off the unneeded turbo parts I didn't even pay 1/4 of that range.
That's the reason people are swapping LSx's into 944's. If it was going to cost me $25-30k I would've sold my car as a roller and just bought the vette. Reality was it was FAR cheaper to do the swap then buy the vette.
That's the reason people are swapping LSx's into 944's. If it was going to cost me $25-30k I would've sold my car as a roller and just bought the vette. Reality was it was FAR cheaper to do the swap then buy the vette.
02-21-2012, 06:22 PM
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When I talked to TPC, granted this is last summer and I am going by memory, LSX swap was in the 4k in labor for basic install. I know you gotta count and engine and parts on top of that but dang. I would think for 25k you could have a ZR1 motor in that bad boy.
on the serious note if the C5 is such a great car why do some 951 guys go through the pain of swapping a LS engine in their 951's? average cost of a ls swap 25-30k you can buy a used c5 z06 for that much
Not everyone can do the swap in their own garage; some people buy new crate engines and then have to take it to shops that charge $85-125 an hour for labor to do a swap.
Its pretty easy to get up to 30k at a high end shop... In fact, im pretty sure most people on rennlist who have a V8 in their 944 did it themselves.
Not everyone can do the swap in their own garage; some people buy new crate engines and then have to take it to shops that charge $85-125 an hour for labor to do a swap.
Its pretty easy to get up to 30k at a high end shop... In fact, im pretty sure most people on rennlist who have a V8 in their 944 did it themselves.
02-21-2012, 11:39 PM
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I talked to TPC as well and he mention roughly 5k in labor so that combined with the engine and parts I would image 10k or less should get you a ls1 swap professionally installed. I would do it myself for 3-4k personally and use a 383 stoker with Carb... no wiring hardly 
and no gas mileage 
and no gas mileage
02-22-2012, 12:14 AM
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I will say the C6 and C5 interiors aren't bad at all if you've been in a Viper. I think sitting in one of those is the biggest dissapointments. 80-90k car and you have a big piece of plastic with Dodge Neor switchs.
02-22-2012, 01:50 AM
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I dont know guys but either Im gone in full retard mode or something is wrong with the math, a 3L conversion w 16V runs in the 30K + a, full rebuild is around 8k, so if a ls swap is in the 12K plus why do people still dumping money in their 4cyl 951's?
02-22-2012, 03:07 AM
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Lart, quit fear-mongering.
People do that because there are purist intentions behind it.
Track guys are already heading the way of the LS V8 swaps. It's really the only way of keeping these cars relevant and reliable. I have 7k in mine, running. Add the average of 4k labor and you are looking at 11k, running out the door. 20-30k gets you one hell of a car that is the best of both worlds.
I await your trolling opinion.
People do that because there are purist intentions behind it.
Track guys are already heading the way of the LS V8 swaps. It's really the only way of keeping these cars relevant and reliable. I have 7k in mine, running. Add the average of 4k labor and you are looking at 11k, running out the door. 20-30k gets you one hell of a car that is the best of both worlds.
I await your trolling opinion.
check this one out 16k 2001 Z06
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv...861040046.html
18k 2002
http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/2862926168.html
98 C5 over 500hp on pump gas 18k that's unbeatable
http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/2810852423.html
02-22-2012, 03:41 AM
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C5s and C6s own the roads around here. They are nice cars outside of the interior. 944s on the other hand are a rare breed. Seeing one on the road is a special occasion and seeing one under a tarp in the front yard is not. 944s are special in their own way and I find it to be a bit of a desire to be different from the "just go buy a vette" crowd. It's a blend of classic beauty with the reliability of a modern sports car. The power is on tap and is cheap to be had. As a complete car nut, I absolutely love my 944. It is an extension of me and I am proud to have been a part of its transformation. As the story goes, if Josh was able to get a decent price out of my car (he was interested in it way before me), it would have been parted and sent to Porsche heaven. But no, with my blood, sweat and tears, it is now alive and on the streets, showing the World that the 944 is still there. The V8 swap is redefining what Porsche originally intended; this is the poor man's Porsche.
I see, I understand good philosophy but it's flawed. I would love to express mine but my ESL English can only go so far, so will leave it for later.