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Old 09-30-2011, 12:58 PM
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So dramatic
Old 09-30-2011, 01:08 PM
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it's true. bmw m-division make a pretty good motor, but the rest of the package isn't up to the task.
Old 09-30-2011, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Quadcammer
oh god yawn. I had an E39 M5. What a snoozer. Engine had decent power, but what a boring car to drive. terrible understeer, terrible clutch, merely adequate brakes, not terribly quick, etc. Sold that thing in about a year. Really unimpressive car.
as a road car, not a track car, I found mine to be wonderful.
All of the issues that you mentioned are easily modded away.
it is the last of the breed -- big v8 german sedan, rear wheel drive, manual trans with defeatable traction control

I added some dinan bits (diff, exhaust, intake, sways) and widened the front wheels to dial out the understeer... in street use I found the stock brakes to be sufficient.

with a little massaging, the car is stellar -- what mid sized sedan of its era was even close in driving dynamics... certainly not the slushbox E55... SRT8, no thanks
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I was admiring an E39 M5 on the freeway the other day - after all these years it still has good presence. I actually like all the m5s and m3s. I think BMW does a great job of bringing some fun into the mid-sized sedan/coupe segment like no other. It's a souped up street car and a good one at that.
Old 09-30-2011, 03:20 PM
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Maybe the e39 m5 will make you yawn when you're comparing it to a GT3, but I can't think of any serious competition in its class, in its day.

That said, it's not without its faults, and I would avoid model year 2000 like the plague. Many burn oil like it's going out of style. I believe the piston rings were revised starting 2001. These cars are also very sensitive to high temperatures, and the timing gets retarded BIG TIME.

Things that frequently fail:
MAFs
Rubber throttle body gaskets producing vacuum leaks
Vanos
Front lower control arms
Old 09-30-2011, 03:39 PM
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Its class, is to me asinine, and the e39 m5 is the car made me realize it.

its a compromise. Its not a very good sports sedan (like a E90 M3), and its not a very good luxury car, so what is it....a big bowl of Meh.

and yes, my 2000 M5 burned about 2 quarts of Castrol TWS 10w-60 every 5k miles.
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Man, that's nothing. I was going through a quart every 1k!! Didn't keep the car for too long...
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I think we've veered too far off topic here. THEY PUMP FAKE ENGINE SOUNDS THROUGH THE STEREO!!!!!!!!!!! It's insane!

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Old 09-30-2011, 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Quadcammer
Its class, is to me asinine, and the e39 m5 is the car made me realize it.

its a compromise. Its not a very good sports sedan (like a E90 M3), and its not a very good luxury car, so what is it....a big bowl of Meh.

and yes, my 2000 M5 burned about 2 quarts of Castrol TWS 10w-60 every 5k miles.
i get what you're saying as i'm not a sedan man myself. it's either a rugged lifted truck or a smallerish sports car for me.

with that said, everything's a compromise. the very nature of automobiles is all about compromise. the gt3RS is a compromise.
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Originally Posted by Riz
Order the current M3 while you still have a chance! I got the 1M and it actually sounds better than my turbo S. I'm ordering mine tomorrow.
The current M3, is the worst M car I ever drove. Heavy, slow and soft.
I still love the Euro 3.2 E36 and the E34 3.8 speed M5.
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E39 M5 is one of the best looking M5's out there, but it was made to suit the american market, with an underpowered engine, and again slow.

Now, this sound thing is a sacrilege.

I had more than 7 M cars and tons of BMW, worked for the factory for a few years, and I'm no longer a fan.

That is really sad.



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