Originally Posted by baege

fair enough on the improved manual, but I know what the power delivery on B58 turbocharged bmws is and they can't beat a naturally aspirated flat six for me, you seem to be fine with turbos so all the power to you (pun intended!)

and btw the 30K price difference between a GTS 4.0 and the Z4 doesn't mean the Z4 is actually the cheaper car to own, that depends on depreciation, I would guess a naturally aspirated manual flat six porsche roadster will beat a turbo charged manual bmw roadster in the depreciation race, but that remains to be seen...

having said all that, I have to admit if they made a manual Z4 COUPE I'd be tempted to trade in my GTS 4.0, my e86 remains one of my all time faves, I had an intangible attachment to that car more than any other

Originally Posted by AnandN

There is a Z4 coupe. It is called Supra.

Originally Posted by boss2k

No its a Toyota although sharing same chasis and engine , dont like the looks too and interior is lot different

Originally Posted by AnandN

Supra is much better looking than the Z4. It looks odd in photos but in person, it has presence to my eyes. The Z4 looks misshapen and has strange creases and the overall styling is just discordant.
My personalized plate for my old Z4 was Qsimodo because of the rounded ducktail rear. Really ugly cars, the older Z4s. The new one is not such an affront to my eyes. Modern BMWs exemplify bad taste and they seem to be in competition with the other automaker Lexus that seems to relish its abominable styling.

Originally Posted by AnandN

Supra is much better looking than the Z4. It looks odd in photos but in person, it has presence to my eyes. The Z4 looks misshapen and has strange creases and the overall styling is just discordant.
My personalized plate for my old Z4 was Qsimodo because of the rounded ducktail rear. Really ugly cars, the older Z4s. The new one is not such an affront to my eyes. Modern BMWs exemplify bad taste and they seem to be in competition with the other automaker Lexus that seems to relish its abominable styling.

Originally Posted by boss2k

You are so wrong as always check out the new Z4 online configurator and tell me its an ugly car

Originally Posted by AnandN

I made the shameful mistake of ordering a 2023 M440i convertible and owned the wretched thing for nine months. At first, I found its sheer hideousness somewhat charming and I transferred my old license plate Qsimodo to the car. After a few months and intensive psychotherapy, I was made to realize ( by a very brusque-mannered analyst who always smelled like menthol cigarettes ) that I was inflicting torture to my sense of aesthetics. I quickly sold it and regained my sanity. If I bought the new Z4, my personalized plate for it would be some contraction of Pinocchio. I would once again relapse into a self-inflicted tortured nightmare from which there might not be an escape. Second time around and all that.

Originally Posted by SmallCapTrader

That was funny, I'll give you that

Originally Posted by AnandN

I sent you a PM about a white 2024 BGTS manual with graphite blue interior which was listed for sale at Porsche of West Palm. It couldn’t have been a customer car. It was gone in a few days. If you check the inventory of the local dealers, you may get lucky. Champion Porsche was willing to order me a car at MSRP but I found my 25 in NH. They get lots of allocations.

Originally Posted by SmallCapTrader

It's too late. My hideous nightmare will be cobbled together soon, and I'll be turbo-lagging around back roads in eco mode at night in hopes that I won't be heard or seen behind that fat, wretched steering wheel.

Originally Posted by SmallCapTrader

It's too late. My hideous nightmare will be cobbled together soon, and I'll be turbo-lagging around back roads in eco mode at night in hopes that I won't be heard or seen behind that fat, wretched steering wheel.

Originally Posted by AnandN

I made the shameful mistake of ordering a 2023 M440i convertible and owned the wretched thing for nine months. At first, I found its sheer hideousness somewhat charming and I transferred my old license plate Qsimodo to the car. After a few months and intensive psychotherapy, I was made to realize ( by a very brusque-mannered analyst who always smelled like menthol cigarettes ) that I was inflicting torture to my sense of aesthetics. I quickly sold it and regained my sanity. If I bought the new Z4, my personalized plate for it would be some contraction of Pinocchio. I would once again relapse into a self-inflicted tortured nightmare from which there might not be an escape. Second time around and all that.